So back a few weeks I posted about the Creationist Grand Canyon tours. Well it seems that a group from the NCSE had their own somewhat humorous trip, "'As long as it wasn’t a KKK trip, we’d go!'"
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Well, it isn’t completely true that that we went with a group of 21 NCSE members. They were mostly NCSE members: we had a last-minute unfortunate cancellation of two of our rafters due to illness. As it happened, one of the other Grand Canyon outfitter companies had screwed up a reservation, and had to solve the problem of a couple who had come all the way from London to raft Grand Canyon on a boat that had no room. Could NCSE help out and let them join our group?
Well, probably. NCSE’s trip is not a random collection of individuals, but a charter of like-minded people: would the new people fit in? After all: you’re stuck on a boat for several hours each day with no escape. Steve told them that NCSE’s trip was a charter of people who had special interests in science, and if the orphan couple was uninterested in science, they might not have a very good time – since that’s what we tend to yak about on the boats, on the trails, and even at dinner time in camp.
More importantly, however, we were planning to discuss a sensitive subject: the creationism/evolution controversy. Although he made it clear this was not a religion-bashing expedition, a conservative Christian might find the discussions uncomfortable. For all of that, our own members, out of a sense of politeness, might feel inhibited from speaking freely about creationist views. If the newcomers knew what they were getting into, and were OK with our emphases on science and the creationism/evolution controversy, we’d be happy to accommodate them. Who wouldn’t sympathize with their plight?
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