Actually they sell it as a Kvass, which is a ferment; producing probiotics. The catch is, I bet they can prove it is a probiotic where as Jillian can not.
The 2002 FAO/WHO guidelines recommend that, though bacteria may be generally recognized as safe (GRAS), the safety of the potential probiotic should be assessed by the minimum required tests.
1. genus, species, and strain designation. Strain designation (definition) should not mislead consumers about the functionality of the strain;2. minimum viable numbers of each probiotic strain at the end of the shelf-life;3. the suggested serving size must deliver the effective dose of probiotics related to the health claim;4. health claim(s);5. proper storage conditions;6. corporate contact details for consumer information.Glad she asked about the salt,,,
“Because it's not just about probiotics which causes lactic acidosis if you're not BALANCING it out with electrolytes and prohormones and minerals AND WATER”
There a lot to unpack in Jillian's statement but I will try and be brief,,,
"[I]t's not just about probiotics"
If we grant JJ the status of a probiotic, which it is not, Jillian obviously sees this product as competition.
"[C]auses lactic acidosis"
Being that I am diabetic and use Metformin, lactic acidosis is something I am familiar with (too familiar) and no the consumption of probiotics does not cause lactic acidosis. I have never been told to cease consuming any probiotic! (Just to clarify, yes I do drink and consume foods that would be considered a probiotic. BUT not for the alleged health benefits. As I have stated before it's to expand the flavor profile of foods I eat and drink. It is a less expensive means of doing so.)
LA is a metabolic issue that begins when a person overproduces or underutilizes lactic acid, and their body is not able to adjust to these changes. Most common causes: cardiogenic shock, hypovolemic shock, severe heart failure, sepsis, severe trauma. There is no mention of consuming probiotics as a cause in any literature concerning lactic acidosis.
In regards to exercise,
In cases of people who are healthy, lactic acidosis can happen after strenuous physical exercise.
In these cases, the condition is temporary and is the result of the body needing more oxygen to keep up with the amount of lactate building up in the blood.
When this mismatch occurs during intense exercise, symptoms may include a burning feeling in the muscles, nausea, and weakness.I would also be curious as to what diagnostic test Jillian possesses to make such a claim, lactic acidosis is diagnosed through a fasting blood test.
"[I]f you're not BALANCING it out with electrolytes and prohormones and minerals AND WATER"
I am really flummoxed as to your recent focus on prohormones, a chemical(s) that is either ingested into or created within the body.
A prohormone is often described as a precursor to the formation of a hormone, without itself creating the effect of a hormone on the body. The prohormone will typically have a chemical composition that is near to that of the desired anabolic compound; enzymes produced by the liver act as catalysts in the conversion of the prohormone to anabolic hormone.Basically, prohormones are substances that the body converts to a hormone.
I am especially perplexed about Jillian's focus considering prohormones have enjoyed a following among body builders as a way to accelerate muscle development. As you see, the term prohormone is generally known as a performance enhancing OTC supplement.
But yet,
you hold this man as an example of what not to do. To borrow a criticism, “How does using a fit, healthy 73 year old as an example, back Jillian's theory that keeping fit is bad for the body and only Jilly juice without exercise can aid longevity?”
But anywhoo,,,
Attached to this little screed was an article Jillian cited as justification of JJ. Basically alluding to the notion her crap juice was different from all the rest because her alleged probiotics plus salt are special. So special they could never cause an issue such as the article highlighted.
So let's take a look and see what we can learn!!
1] We have a teen with failed lungs and an infection in his bloodstream (bacteremia) caused (or suspected) by lactobacillus. The teen was a known consumer of probiotics that also contained lactobacillus.
2] The doctor in charge of care had a similar case in 2014 which prompted the question, “that maybe there is a problem there, because that patient was also taking a probiotic containing lactobacillus.“.
3] Probiotics are generally seen as safe. “Had 'friendly' probiotic bacteria somehow run amok and turned into enemies?”
4] The hospital reviewed records and found other similar cases which further bolstered their hypothesis that lactobacillus was the culprit causing the infection present in the blood.infection.
5] To prove that the bacteria in the probiotics capsules had actually morphed into the patient infections, they needed to analyze the DNA sequences of both.
6] It was determined that the bacteria in the blood and the bacteria in the probiotic supplement where related. Using whole-genome sequencing techniques, they demonstrated that the bacteria in the patients' blood were an almost perfect match with those in the probiotic capsules: a strain called Lactobacillus rhamnosus GG, or LGG.
The analysis “helped show that one strain of the lactobacillus became resistant to an antibiotic. So the friendly bacteria didn't just turn into an enemy, it turned into a kind of a superbug.”
The investigators found 11 positions in the bacterial genome that varied among the blood isolates. They also showed that some LGG bacteria in the probiotics, once established in the patient's GI tract, developed a new mutation that made them antibiotic-resistant.
"We found one mutation affecting the exact position where the antibiotic rifampin would bind to the bacteria," says Merakou. "Bacteria with the mutation become antibiotic-resistant." Testing in McAdam's lab showed that these bacteria were resistant to rifampin, but not to other antibiotics.7] Researchers emphasize that the risk of infection they found in no way means that probiotics are dangerous for everyone.
8] "So I wouldn't stop eating yogurt because of our study," she says, "but we do need to be more careful in the hospital about what's going on, and maybe give some guidelines even to the parents."
9] The hospital tightened its protocols for using probiotics in 2016,,, and a year later essentially banned probiotics for ICU patients who have a central line,,,
Based on these forensics, the team suspects that the bacteria entered the bloodstream from the GI tract, but it's also possible that they entered via the patients' central lines. Five of the six patients had central lines in place.10] A recent study published “in the journal Nature Medicine, ICU patients on probiotics were about 120 times more likely to develop a lactobacillus infection than those not on probiotics,”
11] Other research concerning probiotics is underway,
12] The Children's study is not the first to show risks of infection from probiotics
"The message has to go out to the general public that if they have a condition that could put them at risk, they shouldn't take probiotics,. And those conditions are weakened immune system, gut problems, and being in an ICU."13] Speak with your doctor.
14] More research is critical.
So once again Jillian misrepresents what this article is concerned with - surprise, surprise surprise! It says nothing about lactobacillus having to be balanced with “electrolytes and prohormones and minerals AND WATER”. The article says nothing about lactic acidosis nor probiotics causing such.
The only probiotic spoken of was Lactobacillus rhamnosus GG. Since you have no idea what is in your slop other than 13 milllion CFUs of LAB, Lactobacillus rhamnosus GG may be present. But according to Jillian, none of that matters as Jilly Juice is the be-all-end-all.
With approximately 5 minutes left in the video, Jillian states this, “The JJ is the end-all- be-all, sure fire,,, there's no way you can take the ingredients of JJ compartmentalize and create you own concoction that doesn't taste like mine, there's no fucking way. We've corned the market you guys,,, the JJ corners the market you guys, the JJ corners the market.”
First the ingredients of cabbage juice are not secret, Fermented cabbage juice has been around for a while and in other cultures. (I love this video!!)
Second, Jillian has yet to demonstrate how the amount of salt does not override any perceived benefits of probiotics. Nor has she explained how purging is healthy and does not cause dehydration leading the hypernatremia; or worse, if treated incorrectly. Straight water is not the solution to dehydration as it contains no necessary electrolytes that were shat out or as she states purged. (Even though you claim JJ is not a laxative.)
It is not autophagy as she claims. Or is that what she is encourage in her super secret, private public group? That people eat their own shit. As that is what autophagy means – self eating.
Let me say this, Jillian has been fermenting for 3-4 yrs (based upon public FB posts),,, I have been fermenting for 17 years. If the face she makes is any indication of her product's quality, I want nothing to do with it, nor would I recommend it to any one. If the description of the smell is an indication of her product's quality, I will pass.
I have left my product sit out 10 days as an “experiment”, open to the air. No odor, no mold growth. (I did not attempt to drink it as evaporation left less than 1/3 of the liquid.) I have never had mold and only recently did I have an issue with Kahm yeast. Jillian, OTOH, and some or her minions, are consistently posting about skimming the mold or yeast, stirring, and drinking the contaminated slop.
What market Jillian? According to Jillian, she does not sell a product by her own admission. She does sell a book; information. A book which she requires individuals to purchase if they want admission to her group.
I find it ironic that Jillian speaks of not demonizing an ingredient, salt for example, but yet demonizes a products she deems a competitor.
Oh and speaking of purging,,,this is what she encourages on a holiday that should be spent with family and/or friends.
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