Showing posts with label Council on Biblical Manhood and Womanhood. Show all posts
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Sunday, October 25, 2015

Peter LaBarbera Furious At Evangelical Leader For Acknowledging That Homosexuality Exists | Right Wing Watch

First off Mr. "I feel like a Jew", there are many things in the world today "that are not biblical".  You know like the the email system you so like or the inter-web that "hosts" your despicable lies.  But seriously dude, you may want to consider finding a more powerful god to worship as it seems us "homo-homo-sexuals" wield so much more power.  Apparently "we" cause hurricanes, tornadoes, floods and droughts. Maybe its time you stopped fucking with us!
“Al Mohler has given credence to the idea of homosexual sexual orientation,” LaBarbera said. “And we know that sexual orientation is a political construct, it’s something that’s helped the homosexual movement advance. Because if people feel that people who struggle with homosexuality have a natural so-called orientation, they of course believe that they’re not really responsible for their behavior as much as they would be for any other sin. So, once again, we start treating this particular sin as a special sin needing all sorts of special terminology and semantics and caveats that are not biblical. And I think he’s starting to go down that route and it troubles me, because he’s probably regarded as the leading intellectual, one of them, in the evangelical Christian movement."
A second point, a bit more nuanced - which explains why Mr. "I feel like a Jew" - may have missed it. Mohler et al did a very good job of veiling their true message.  They may sound all loving, but 'ya' still gotta change'. So I'm not sure why Peter's panties are in such a twist:
In other words, for Southern Baptists — the largest Protestant body in the United States — the theology hasn’t changed. Homosexuality is still a sin, and gay people are still expected to renounce their sexuality, even if they spend their whole life “struggling” in that “battle.” The result, a celibate ex-gay life, if not a man-woman marriage, is the same. They’re just skipping the therapy step. Transgender people are expected to find the same kind of change through faith.

Mohler’s position isn’t new; he made the same rejection of reparative therapy at a conference on homosexuality last year hosted by the SBC’s Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission (ERLC). And at this year’s ACBC conference, like last year’s ERLC conference, the rest of the messaging contradicts this progress by promoting “change” and highlighting “change” narratives.
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This message that “change” is possible was particularly evident in Tuesday’s keynote address by Stuart W. Scott, associate professor of biblical counseling at SBTS. Describing the Bible as a “command,” not an “invitation,” Scott spoke in generalities about all of the ways Christians can change to suggest that changing homosexuality is no different. “To say a person is a gay Christian is an affront to the Gospel,” he explained, “or a Christian alcoholic or a proud Christian.”
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Condemning conversion therapies doesn’t change the fact that Southern Baptists are still teaching that LGBT youth should be condemned and rejected unless they change. The only difference is that they now expect that change to come through “Biblical counseling” instead of psychological therapy. As a recent study found, family acceptance is the biggest factor for determining positive outcomes for LGBT youth.
Peter LaBarbera Furious At Evangelical Leader For Acknowledging That Homosexuality Exists | Right Wing Watch

Tuesday, October 13, 2015

Evangelical transgender conference rejects notion that gender identity can change - The Washington Post

With a statement as such, "ll the speakers have agreed to a statement published last year that rejects 'that a human being could possess a gender other than the one indicated by biological sex.'"  I'm not too sure about how much informed "Christian thought" will take place.
People have the right to their religious beliefs, said Anderson, who had never heard of the biblical counselors group. But he added that he was concerned that the mix of worldviews between religion and science is one “we don’t feel works very well for people.”

“We want to be very careful to keep what psychology has to say from its knowledge distinct from what religion may have to say from its knowledge,” he said.

The Association of Certified Biblical Counselors had planned its conference last year, Lambert said. But nobody could have predicted what has happened since then. Stars such as Laverne Cox of “Orange Is the New Black” and Caitlyn Jenner have turned the national spotlight on transgender issues, and the Supreme Court has legalized same-sex marriage nationwide.

It’s important that seminary students understand the world they live in, he said. And it’s important for Christians to learn to think about the issues in a way that is “not just informed by Christian thought, but informed by Christian care.”
Evangelical transgender conference rejects notion that gender identity can change - The Washington Post