Monday, May 23, 2016

Show Notes::They're kinda related (Pt 4)

There was no show this week but putting this out there anyways as part 5 is half way done.   Please note that my speech was being a butt hole so the audio is not as "good" as I would like.  The extended audio mentioned is included.

Let's recap a bit to understand where I am going with all this, as it is not your standard AV diatribe.

1] Kent Hovind and Mary Tocco catch my eye (with a little help); standard AV bullshit.  We learn about the Cutter Incident surrounding the polio vaccine.

2] Hovind and Tocco are both religious nutz which got me to thinking about SOCAS.

3] A stink was raised with the documentary Vaxxed being included then pulled by Tribeca. (Another AV celebrity comes to the fore in Robert Dinero.)

4]  Andrew Wakefield, the writer of said documentary,  cries persecution and censorship.  Although not religious in nature, it is related to the First Amendment.  That issue reminds me of G2C and MMS.

Last week I briefly (uhm,,, well sorta briefly) introduced Jim Humble, the creator of both MMS and G2C.  I hope in that time I was able to show that his intentions were not so humanitarian as he likes to make them out to be.

This week we are going to take a look at homeopath and one of the infamous bishops of Jim Humble’s church, Kerri Rivera.  Author of the book Healing the Symptoms Known as Autism, which touts dosing your child orally with this bleaching agent and anally as well, to "recover" your child from autism.  And if you remember some of the horror stories from last week, this is just ludicrous.

What do we know of Kerri Rivera?
What we do know of Rivera, comes from self reporting or what is stated by others; she has not denied such attributions.  Following is an example of the drek she was taught (as noted by David Gorski and many other science writers). [Currently this link is dead.  As it is a newsletter, I am searching for alternative URL.]
When people leave here they really know how to use MMS for all things, skin diseases of all kinds, colon problems, how to regenerate the liver, how to treat brain cancers, how to treat babies and pregnant women, and how to treat animals from mice to elephants. You will be personally taking MMS while here, spraying your skin with powerful solutions of MMS (but won’t hurt you), spraying others’ skin and hair. You will learn to use sprays, baths, IV solutions, MMS gas, soak the feet, and most importantly, the new protocols that in the country of Malawi have cured more than 800 people of HIV plus 40 cancer cases, 50 of feet and leg numbness, 3 heart disease cases, 13 diabetes cases, and many other diseases and problems.
Sounds very much like the 2010 newsletter mentioned last week.

That is what she was taught, it is what she is teaching others, through her book and lectures, that is scary.  In an polished, Project Camelot, interview from 2015 she talks of how autism was not initially on Humble's radar for MMS use, so this is all her.  Which is why my focus is on her and, as we shall see, co-hort Andreas Kalcker.

One point to note, as I suspected, Rivera has been distancing herself from Humble.
In an interview with NBC Chicago, Rivera distanced herself from Humble and said her only interest was in helping children.
As to some of what she teaches people,
"Autism is treatable, it's avoidable, and I believe that it's curable," she said. "As the symptoms go away, the diagnosis fades as well."
"If it were so toxic, people would be dropping like flies, and there are no deaths related to chlorine dioxide," Rivera said.
Although my focus has been the ingesting and enemas advocated by Rivera et al, another form of torture justified by Rivera is “fever therapy”.
What caught my eye (and horrified me to think about it) was that Kerri Rivera was advocating the use of MMS enemas to treat autism. Yes, Kerri Rivera advocated subjecting autistic children to bleach enemas and has made videos touting this as a biomedical treatment for autism. As I noted back then, even worse (if that were possible), Rivera advocated “fever therapy” and characterized fevers after bleach enemas to be a good thing, a sign that the treatment is “working,” much as Jim Humble gives MMS to treat adults in increasing doses until they start to feel ill. (Personally, as a physician, I would be very concerned at a child becoming febrile after having ingested bleach or had it shot up his rectum. Not Kerri Rivera, apparently.) Indeed, Rivera even exults about how much she loves “fever therapy” and how it “wakes up the immune system.” In addition to the bleach enemas, she recommends a “72-2″ protocol that involves making children drink dilute bleach every two hours for 72 hours.
To us normies it suks, to a biomed mom, it is the greatest thing since sliced bread
,,,possibly it’s attractive because the child is more compliant, but I think more significant is the sense of accomplishing something. A treatment is administered, a change is observed, therefore it’s working! So they keep doing it, and soon they start seeking the change that shows its working rather than worrying about the end point. It could be a little pavlovian — sort of like clicker training a dog, you train them to associate the click with a treat and praise, and fairly quickly you don’t need to do the treat and praise because the click is all it takes to make the dog feel rewarded. Even though the dog didn’t get the thing they’d actually been wanting; they come to substitute the signal for the reward.

Combine that with the “warrior mommy” thing and it all becomes disturbingly attractive. They want to be Doing Something to help their child, because that is what warrior mommies do. Anything less is a sign of failure. So they really want to see signs of progress. This “treatment” doesn’t work, but it *does* produce symptoms that the unwary can be deluded into thinking are signs of progress. So rather than these side-effects discouraging them, it actually encourages them instead.
She already had a bio-med clinic (2006) when introduced to MMS, so her mind-set to accept the stuff was already there.  Not knowing her child's status other than "he was a mess" or what the family's trials or tribulation may have been concerning a autism diagnoses, I can only guess it was one of desperation.  In another words clinging to anything that gave hope of a "normal" child.  I can rightly understand that BUT by she discounts science and all that it offers. She discounts what I noted last week, that these children are unique in their own ways.  It is us who need to understand.

Further along in the interview Rivera tells a bit of history and how she justifies the torture her child.  Notice the Jenny McCarthy trope of "refrigerator mamma".

I have spoken on this issue before so I won’t rehash it too much.  Your child is not damaged or injured.  By force feeding a poison and shoving it up the ass, you are guilty of abuse.  Using Pavlovian conditioning to avoid behaviors you do not understand is barbaric.

While Gorski goes into much more detail, we do learn this concerning Rivera,  
,,, we learn that Kerri Rivera was trained as a DAN! (Defeat Autism Now!) practitioner (even though she is not a doctor) and charged by Bernie Rimland herself to translate DAN! protocols into Spanish and spread them throughout Latin America, like a preacher of woo. She’s also the director of a “clinic” even though she is apparently not a doctor or health care professional,,,
Although DAN! protocols and the subject of Bernie Rimland is beyond what I want to present, I may at some point dive into the subject.  I have a sneaky feeling that Rimland alone will be a deep rabbit hole.

As she states, she is "just a mom".  While she may be well read and "knows her child" her understanding of science as it relates to the use of MMS is pitiful. Like Humble, Rivera and her apologists blatantly ignore science that counters their wishful thinking (ie FDA warnings) or twist the science to fit their conclusions (ie the Lubber study or Natick).  Many of your MMS apologists do the same, they present these studies as evidence for its efficacy disregarding the protocols of said study.

Today was a brief overview of Rivera’s shit.  Honestly I could spend hours, not even delving into her flawed science.  The shit I have read confirms my belief that Rivera is a sadist; a sadist of the cruelest kind. 
The latter video is utterly appalling. There really is no better way to describe it. In it, Rivera describes how, as you up the dose, you’ll see the autistic child do more stimming, which makes me wonder whether it’s because the child is feeling ill, leading him to show more autistic behaviors. Rivera, apparently believing in MMS< thinks this increase in stimming behaviors is a good thing, indicating that the treatment is working. She also discusses how the autistic children subjected to this therapy will develop diarrhea, but that that's OK as long as it's "detox diarrhea",,, [External URL left off.]
From one of the many online bio-med forums,,,
My 14YO son has autism. I've been treating him with a parasite cleanse system for 1.5 years (5 days on, 2 days off). He's made some remarkable improvements, but every time I try to wean him off the cleanse, the parasite symptoms flare up. He is nonverbal and fairly low-functioning, so I don't get any feedback from him as to how he is feeling. Last week, I started him on 1 drop of Miracle-Mineral-Supplement then upped the dose to 1 drop, 2x a day this week. After about 4 days at 2 drops/day, he vomited once and had diarrhea all day. I am assuming it is the Miracle-Mineral-Supplement . I decided to drop down to 1 drop/day again until he gets beyond this. He tends to have loose stools anyway, which I am guessing is related to this ongoing battle with the parasites. His gut tends to be very sensitive to anything I give him, so I have to go very carefully with anything new like the MMS. I am still giving him the other parasite cleanse (Systemic Formulas VRM 1-4). I would love to hear anyone's ideas or insight into this. I am working with a homeopath who has done extensive research into parasite cleanses, but she has not researched MMS. I'm looking to get my son beyond these parasites once and for all. My homeopath and her colleagues are autism experts and do consults with parents from around the world. They have found that the children with autism who are considered "tough nuts" tend to also be parasite kids. With their compromised immune systems, it is difficult to eradicate parasites.
Harsh maybe but in all likelihood honest.  Makes me wonder if the “rumor” is true.  Did her DH finally wise up?

Next time we'll go a little deeper into Kerri Rivera:  some contradictions in her book, her willful stupidity regarding science.  We will contemplate whether the use of MMS is another form of Scientology and if we have time, the dreaded "ropeworm".  

Remember, this is just an overview.  As I was telling Deb the other day, the past 3 weeks has been a reaction, a refutation, of one "simple" meme.  AV drive me gonzo, even more so the theists and it is shit like this that reminds me the science denialism as a whole is a cult.

This is a letter that Autismum penned to Kerri Rivera after her 2012 AutismOne presentation. I'm not going to get too deep here, but Autismum did receive a reply.  You will understand why I say it is a cult, why I say it is a mind-set.
Ms Rivera’s reply was brief  to say the least and here it is in full.
You have your science all wrong. The websites that you site are incorrect. I wish you and your son all the best. Wonderful hearing your opinion. Everyone has one be it informed or misinformed.
The mind-set is the same and no amount of legitimate science is going to change their minds.  Whether it be AV, Climate Change, GMO or Creationism.

A response in defense,,,
Anonymous, January 9, 2013 at 11:25 AM:

have any of you naysayers atually [sic] read the book on MMS?

IT IS NOT BLEACH. chlorine dioxide is not bleach. look it up.

The drug companies want you to think it is bad because it cures diseases, is easy to make, and would lose the trillions of dollars. Why would doctors support it? They are forever connected to the pharmecutical [sic] companies.

chlorine dioxide is negatively charged and is attracted to other negatively charged things... parasites, pathogens, viruses.

you're healthy cells are positively charged are therefor repel chlorine dioxide.

after a couple of hours in your system, chlorine dioxide turns to salt and oxygen.
This is just dogma, it is the drek that both Humble a Rivera repeat over and over again.  Part of their commandments must be "It's not Bleach", "drug companies want you to think it is bad", and "pathogens".
if you say crap about MMS when you have NO knowledge or understanding, you are just as evil as the drug companies. No one has died from mms. How many people have died from prescribed drugs?

If you don't believe the chemestry [sic], believe the people who have cured themselves of parasites and cancer, the people whose lyme [sic] disease and aids once had them bed-ridden and now live pain free.

Dont [sic] be a drone of the system you idiots.
And, one of her come backs (it does get worse):
Amanzo, mother of Liam (3)June 12, 2012 at 8:43 PM

FDA? You mean the buddies of Big Pharm who profit from society being and staying sick? Please. I bet you also naively eat factory-farm meat and don't have a clue about e. coli. Probably where our kids got the parasites that are now coming out on an MMS/parasite protocol. If you'd like to see worm pics, I know moms who will gladly send them! But it looks like your team has found its 'facts' to propagate and follow and are unwilling to consider another perspective. Well, my team consists of proactive, reputable moms who report their hundreds of children are getting better day by day. I'll take that over the FDA any day. By the way, for the record, I want to add that my son is PERFECT. I love everything about him. If his body is not well, which has been my motherly instinct considering his mineral deficiencies, food sensitivities, candida yeast, and sleep disturbances despite healthy diets, then I will look into what helps his body so that his perfection can shine forth. I'm done responding to these blogs. I'd rather just be with my kids.
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  1. Re: "it's not bleach", see this BBC exposé of MMS ...

    1. g00d1e,,,I am not sure what you're referencing, but if you read any of my other work I am well aware the ClO2 is, by chemistry a bleach. As the video notes it is just not Clorox (TM) or what is used as a household cleaner. The "it's not bleach" canard is one used by MMS proponents as a means to undermine a basic understanding of chemistry. It is an underhanded way of saying "you only believe it is bleach because big chemistry tells you so."