John Hagee: 'This Supreme Court Has Made America The New Sodom And Gomorrah' | Right Wing Watch

So John, where exactly in the bile does "God Almighty" state that "Same-sex marriage will never be accepted in Heaven as legitimate"?  You see I am having difficulty finding any such passages,,,

"The Supreme Court in Washington has handed down its decision in a 5-4 ruling supporting same-sex marriage," Hagee declared. "But the Supreme Court in Heaven has handed down its unanimous decision in a 3-0 ruling from God, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit [that] marriage is exclusively between a man and a woman. Same-sex marriage will never be accepted in Heaven as legitimate, so says God Almighty."

You see, Genesis 1 and 2 basically explains the origin of the world, God's relationship with humanity, and God's special relationship with the nation of Israel.  No mention of homosexuals in that passage.

Genesis 19 and Judges 19 teach that women are  expendable pieces of property. No homo-sex there either, unless you consider (attempted) rape a consensual act.  The again there is this, Ezekiel 16:49-50, the verses that tell you what the Sodom story was all about.

The Holiness Code - Leviticus 18:19-22 and 20:1-18 - its only concern, keeping the Israelites a distinctive and separate people.  The Holiness Code was written for a particular people at a particular time for a particular reason and was never intended to be universally applied across all times and to all people. A bit of butt-sex if read within context, though last I check I ain't Jewish nor am I a temple prostitute.

Ah, Romans 1, now that is a fun passage and last I checked, I'm not a Galli preist.

On Palatine Hill you will find the ruins of a temple dedicated to the "Protectress of Rome." Cybele is her name, also known as Magna Matar. It was here that Galli priests engaged in what many individuals, past and present, would call an unholy worship of Cybele. This is what Paul was writing about in Romans 1:26-27,,, Temple prostitution, Gentile idolatry, and more specifically fertility goddess worship. This cultic activity in Cybele's Temple does not equate to modern homosexuality anymore than rape equates to heterosexuality.

For I Corinthians 6:9 and I Timothy 1:9-10, I'll just leave this here.  As you will see, no ancient manuscript  contains the word homosexual nor do any translations prior to the 20th century.   That has occurred because there is no reliable historic certainty on the word Arsenkoites.  Malakos was a common word used to describe one who was soft in character or effeminate.

That's a simplified version concerning Arsenkoites and Malakos but what it boils down to is the difficulty in translating thewords, "none of which allows the broad imposition of all homosexual behavior to be applied to either or both of these words."

Again no mention of 21st century homosexual partnerships.

Which brings us to Jude 7 which is a bit more complicated as it refers back to not only to Sodom (gang rape) but to Genesis 6:2 - That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose - as well.

In Jude it is the words "ekporneuo" and "going after sarkos heteros" that cause the confusion and connection specifically to Sodom.  Many take the male mob at Lot's door as wanting to have sex with the male angels as "going after different flesh"  (ie. wanting to have gay sex.) When in actuality it concerns angel-human copulation, "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day." (cf. 1 Enoch 7:1-2)

A simpler way to think of it, if Jude had intended to reference homosexuality, he would have used "going after same flesh ( sarkos homos). Jude's reference to the men having sex with angels, references the ancient Judaeo-Christian world view that had a documented anxiety about human-on-angel sexuality -  what happened between angels and humans in Gen 6:1-4, the prelude to the Deluge of Noah.

Finally Matthew 19:3-12.  Very simple, Jesus’ appeal to Genesis 2:24 was for the exclusive purpose of arguing against divorce. The question of same-sex marriage doesn’t arise here at all.

So please John, show me where cuz seriously dude I can't find it anywhere!!

John Hagee: 'This Supreme Court Has Made America The New Sodom And Gomorrah' | Right Wing Watch

Louie Gohmert tells the Supreme Court: Jesus’ law more important than constitutional law

But Louie, it is not just Moses that is depicted in or on (the East Pediment) the building that occupies 1 First Street, Northeast, Washington, D.C.. You seem to leave out of your narrative that Moses is not given any special emphasis in the numerous depictions:  his figure is not larger than the others;  he is not displaying any type of dominance over the other figures; nor is the Decalogue (a hotly contested notion at best) written in full.  " Over time, the use of two tablets has become a symbol for the Commandments, and more generally, ancient laws. Tablets signify the permanence of the law when “written in stone.”

Specifically in the frieze mentioned, Moses is holding two tablets (let's assume the Ten Commandments),but only commandments six through ten are visible usually considered the more secular of commands.  That would fit with Weinman's design for said frieze,

Weinman’s training emphasized a correlation between the sculptural subject and the function of the building. Gilbert relied on him to choose the subjects and figures that best reflected the function of the Supreme Court Building. Faithful to classical sources and drawing from many civilizations, Weinman designed a procession of “great lawgivers of history” for the south and north walls to portray the development of law. Each frieze in the Courtroom measures 40 feet long by 7 feet, 2 inches high and is made of ivory vein Spanish marble

And, no Louie Christ did not define marriage between one man and one woman.

“It is a matter of a constitutional crisis when the Highest Court in the land not merely strikes down and says that their opinion is more important than Moses’, depicted up there in the center point of this room, more important than Moses’, depicted in the marble wall over the Supreme Court, holding the Ten Commandments,” the congressman said on the House floor.

“The Supreme Court says theirs is more important than the opinions established and stated by Jesus Christ when he said–and he was quoting Moses–that a man shall leave his mother and father, a woman leave her home, and the two will come together and be one flesh, and what God has joined together, let no man put asunder.”

  “The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”
— U.S. Constitution, Article VI, clause 3

Louie Gohmert tells the Supreme Court: Jesus’ law more important than constitutional law

Huckabee promotes Bible cancer cure - National atheism | Examiner.com

Potential presidential candidate Mike Huckabee sent out an e-mail advertising a secret Bible cure for cancer. The advertisement was sent out to Huckabee supporters on Thursday, January 8, 2015 and promotes the book, “The Bible’s Healing Code Revealed,” by Brian Chambers. The book is free with the purchase of famed homeopathic doctor, Mark Stengler’s $72 newsletter subscription.

Buzzfeed and The Young Turks both reported on the Huckabee e-mail, but the e-mail itself is nothing new. Both the Washington Post and Christian Today have also sent out similar e-mails to their subscribers as early as January of 2014.

The e-mail claims that this secret cancer cure, found on page 859 of the Bible, has been “verified by one of America’s top doctors!” Presumably that top doctor is Dr. Mark Stengler since it is his newsletter being promoted. However, when Irregular Times writer, Jim Cook questioned Stengler about the so-called “Matthew 4 Protocol,” Stengler claimed that he had nothing to do with the book and that it was a promotional give-away from the publisher.

This time around, the e-mail not only features Mike Huckabee letterhead, but also opens with a personal introduction from the potential 2016 presidential candidate:

Huckabee promotes Bible cancer cure - National atheism | Examiner.com

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The Bible Cured Cancer!

Mike Huckabee Thinks Selling Bogus Cancer Treatments will make Him a ‘Heck of a Good President’
Mike Huckabee and the diabetes cure he endorsed that 'no health agency supports'
Huckabee Defends His Scam Diabetes 'Cure'

Yet Even More Evidence That David Barton's History Cannot Be Trusted | Right Wing Watch

Just last month, we wrote a long post exposing the way in which David Barton routinely misrepresents court cases in an effort to support his pseudo-history and promote his cultural and political agenda. Today, we came across another instance of Barton doing the same thing with a different court case while delivering a presentation a few weeks ago at Calvary Chapel in San Jose, California.

Barton was making the case that, until the Supreme Court's decision in Abington Township v. Schempp in 1963 — which Barton also routinely misrepresents — teaching the Bible in public schools had been the norm. To support this point, Barton cited the Supreme Court's 1844 ruling in a case called Vidal v. Girard's Executors, which he claimed declared that no school that refused to teach the Bible could receive public funds,,,

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Barton's representation of this case is entirely false, as it had literally nothing to do with the teaching of the Bible nor any requirement that schools must do so in order to receive public funds.

Yet Even More Evidence That David Barton's History Cannot Be Trusted | Right Wing Watch

Okla. school district rejects Hobby Lobby bible class - Freedom From Religion Foundation

My initial post concerning this debacle is http://interestinghmm.blogspot.com/2014/04/the-good-book-taught-badly-okla-school.html here,,,

Mustang Public Schools is canceling plans to conduct a bible course developed by Hobby Lobby President Steve Green, a zealous evangelical Christian advocate.

The district's announcement came in response to a follow-up open records request to the Oklahoma school district from FFRF Staff Attorney Andrew Seidel, in conjunction with Americans United Senior Litigation Counsel Greg Lipper, ACLU of Oklahoma Legal Director Brady Henderson and Daniel Mach of the ACLU Program on Freedom of Religion and Belief.
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"In summary, the topic of a Bible course in the Mustang School District is no longer a discussion item nor is there a plan to provide such a course in the foreseeable future," wrote Superintendent Sean McDaniel in his emailed response.

FFRF led the charge against the proposed class in April when the Mustang school board voted to approve Green's curriculum. FFRF pointed out numerous flaws with the course, entitled "The Book, the Bible's History, Narrative and Impact of the World's Best-selling Book." The course in the Mustang school district was to be the first in what Green intended to be implemented in school districts around the country. Americans United and ACLU later also wrote letters, and teamed up with FFRF for the most recent open records request.

McDaniel said two "non-negotiables" the school had requested from Hobby Lobby were not met, namely that the district be permitted to review the final curriculum before introducing it, and that Hobby Lobby commit to providing legal coverage to the district.

FFRF's concern from the beginning was that Green and his staff were using the Mustang School District for their own ends, persuading it to adopt an unconstitutional curriculum for which the Mustang taxpayers, not Green, would ultimately pay the court costs for the inevitable court battle.

Okla. school district rejects Hobby Lobby bible class - Freedom From Religion Foundation

My Father Repented of Christian Spanking Too Late - OnFaith

As an adult, I didn’t speak to my abuser for more than ten years. I spent my late teens and early twenties in intensive group and individual psychotherapy. By my mid-twenties, I’d hit my stride; it seemed that I’d finally found a way to work around the emotional and psychological scars of abuse. But a chance encounter with a secondary trauma caused the flashbacks and nightmares to return — this time, so severely that I couldn’t function personally or professionally. Clawing my way back to normal would cost me six more years.

My Father Repented of Christian Spanking Too Late - OnFaith

Barton: The Founding Fathers Wanted The Bible Taught In Schools To Prevent Another Inquisition | Right Wing Watch

Fact checking David Barton is so mind numbing. How Chris Rodda does it on a "daily" basis in researching her work is beyond me. That aside I do enjoy learning new things in the process.

I wonder what Bill Donohue would have to say about this,,,

As Barton put it, the Christianity in existence during the Inquisition was one "in which the Bible had no role."

"You had high illiteracy, people did not read, could not read the Bible," he said. "The Bible was not available to them, it was not in their language. Folks who tried to bring the Bible to the common man got themselves killed."

Barton's co-host Rick Green then piped up to declare that "you almost can't call it Christianity; it's really a hijacked religion, it was abuse of power in the name of Christianity."

It gets even better,

"That's right," agreed Barton, as he then went on to explain that the Founding Fathers wanted the Bible taught as the foundation of public education in America in order to prevent another Inquisition from ever taking place.

"If you look at the very first public school law passed in America," Barton said, "that act says we just came out of Europe and what they call Christianity over there is full of atrocities. That's not it. We don't want that in America, so in America we're going to make sure that the Bible is the basis of all public schools because if you read the Bible, you won't do those atrocities."

OK, so let's have a look at the text of the Massachusetts School Law of 1642 and see:

Forasmuch as the good education of children is of singular behoof and benefit to any Common-wealth; and whereas many parents & masters are too indulgent and negligent of their duty in that kind. It is therfore ordered that the Select men of every town, in the severall precincts and quarters where they dwell, shall have a vigilant eye over their brethren & neighbours, to see, first that none of them shall suffer so much barbarism in any of their families as not to indeavour to teach by themselves or others, their children & apprentices so much learning as may enable them perfectly to read the English tongue, & knowledge of the Capital Lawes: upon penaltie of twentie shillings for each neglect therin. Also that all masters of families do once a week (at the least) catechize their children and servants in the grounds & principles of Religion, & if any be unable to do so much: that then at the least they procure such children or apprentices to learn some short orthodox catechism without book, that they may be able to answer unto the questions that shall be propounded to them out of such catechism by their parents or masters or any of the Select men when they shall call them to a tryall of what they have learned of this kind. And further that all parents and masters do breed & bring up their children & apprentices in some honest lawful calling, labour or employment, either in husbandry, or some other trade profitable for themselves, and the Common-wealth if they will not or cannot train them up in learning to fit them for higher employments. And if any of the Select men after admonition by them given to such masters of families shall find them still negligent of their duty in the particulars aforementioned, wherby children and servants become rude, stubborn & unruly; the said Select men with the help of two Magistrates, or the next County court for that Shire, shall take such children or apprentices from them & place them with some masters for years (boyes till they come to twenty one, and girls eighteen years of age compleat) which will more strictly look unto, and force them to submit unto government according to the rules of this order, if by fair means and former instructions they will not be drawn into it.

Nope nothing in there about European Christianity being any different from American Christianity or about how teaching the Bible will prevent such atrocities.

Barton: The Founding Fathers Wanted The Bible Taught In Schools To Prevent Another Inquisition | Right Wing Watch

See Also:
Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, Query 17, 157--61

House Whip Sends Bible To Every Hill Office For 'Decision-Making' Guidance

A Republican congressman recently sent a copy of the Holy Bible to every member of Congress "to help guide you in your decision-making," according to a letter obtained by TPM.

Rep. Steven Palazzo (R-MS) enclosed the Bible in his letter dated July 29 and sent to all House and Senate offices. The letter, written on an official letterhead in his capacity as assistant majority whip, was confirmed by Capitol Hill aides whose offices received it.

"On a daily basis, we contemplate policy decisions that impact America's future. Our staffs provide us with policy memos, statistics, and recommendations that help us make informed decisions. However, I find that the best advice comes through meditating on God's Word," Palazzo wrote.

"Please find a copy of the Holy Bible to help guide you in your decision-making," the congressman continued, saying the Bibles were donated by one of his constituents from South Mississippi named J.B. Atchison.

House Whip Sends Bible To Every Hill Office For 'Decision-Making' Guidance

See also:  

Bible-Based Laws?: Miss. Congressman Mails Calls For Policy Anchored In Scripture

AU’s executive director, Barry Lynn, explained to TPM why the representative should have refrained from sending the Bibles. “When a politician calls for using the Bible as the basis for public policy, what he or she is really saying is, ‘Let’s use the Bible as I interpret it as the basis for public policy,’” Lynn said.

He added, “When it comes to religion, our nation is pluralistic and diverse. Rather than look to the Bible or any other religious book to craft our nation's public policy, we would do well to examine another source instead, one that was actually created to guide governance. It's called the Constitution.”

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It’s a matter of concern that Palazzo seems to prioritize the Bible over other sources of guidance. As a legislator, his responsibility is to make sure that laws adhere to the Constitution – including the First Amendment – not the Ten Commandments. While he, and indeed every other public official, is certainly entitled to find spiritual solace in any religion’s holy text, dogma has no place in the policy-making process.

Glenn Beck has been busy

Glenn Beck Says David Barton's 'Founder's Bible' Is 'The Only Answer' To Saving America | Right Wing Watch

Last week, Glenn Beck had David Barton on his television program where he heaped praise upon Barton's last book, "The Founder's Bible." Now Beck has begun personally promoting Barton's book during advertising breaks on his show, as he did last night when he beseeched his audience to buy the book because is represents "the only answer" to our problems.

"This is, honest to God, we are out of all other options," Beck said, holding up Barton's book. "This is the only answer and he have to know it inside and out ... We have to start reading this with our kids that the table at dinner every night."

"I can't urge you enough to get involved and get this," he concluded before, later, interviewing Robert Muise of the American Freedom Law Center, who declared that America is God's "chosen nation" because the Holy Spirit inspired the Founding Fathers to create this country and our Constitution.

Glenn Beck Wants The Bible Taught In Public Schools Because It Has Been 'The Only Textbook We Needed'

Glenn Beck has been on a kick recently hailing the Bible as the solution to every single one of our nation's problems, so it comes as no surprise to see him now throwing his support behind an effort led by Hobby Lobby president Steve Green to get the Bible taught in public schools all over the nation.  (Go here to read more on that.)

Hailing the Green family as "true Americans" during his morning meeting, Beck turned directly to the camera and urged viewers to shop at Hobby Lobby in order to support them because "these people are the best."

On last night's television program, Beck then interviewed Jerry Pattengale, who is overseeing the development of this Bible curriculum program, declaring that trying to build a Western democracy without studying the Bible is like trying to become a chef without ever reading a cookbook.

Beck Goes Full Barton, Claims One-Third Of The Constitution And Declaration Came Straight From Deuteronomy

On today's radio broadcast, Glenn Beck went full David Barton, claiming that one-third of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence came straight out of the Bible; more specifically, right out of the Book of Deuteronomy.
Continuing his argument from last night that the Bible is the "cookbook" of America's system of government, Beck echoed David Barton's claim that the Founding Fathers were so well-versed in the Bible that they quoted it continually in their correspondence.
- See more at: http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/beck-goes-full-barton-claims-one-third-constitution-and-declaration-came-straight-deuteronom#sthash.lqWpfs8F.dpuf

On today's radio broadcast, Glenn Beck went full David Barton, claiming that one-third of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence came straight out of the Bible; more specifically, right out of the Book of Deuteronomy.

Continuing his argument from last night that the Bible is the "cookbook" of America's system of government, Beck echoed David Barton's claim that the Founding Fathers were so well-versed in the Bible that they quoted it continually in their correspondence.

As RRW points out Chris Rodda has thoroughly debunked this bullshit:  "This installment of my series debunking the American history lies told on Glenn Beck is about a study published in 1984 in The American Political Science Review, and how that study is misrepresented to make it appear that our founding documents were based on the Bible, especially the Book of Deuteronomy."

Pat Robertson: Consider Divorcing Wife For Withholding Sex, She Was Probably 'Molested As A Child' | Right Wing Watch

A reader submitted article,,,

Pat Robertson told a 700 Club viewer today that he has “grounds for divorce” because his wife is not having sex with him regularly, speculating that she was “molested as a child” and needs serious psychological counseling.

The viewer told Robertson that he has “only been intimate with my wife a handful of times” and that “she has no interest in the bedroom,” adding: “I believe the Bible says withholding sex is wrong. Correct me if I’m wrong.”

Pat Robertson: Consider Divorcing Wife For Withholding Sex, She Was Probably 'Molested As A Child' | Right Wing Watch

UPDATE::Lawmaker pulls bill to make Holy Bible Louisiana's official state book | NOLA.com

An update to this story and yes it was unnecessary, divisive, and completely contrary to the point of state books. Carmody created the distraction and it’s time he cleaned up his own mess.
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Rep. Thomas Carmody, R-Shreveport, scrapped his proposal to make the Holy Bible the official state book before it could go to a full vote of the state House of Representatives Monday evening. The bill had become a distraction, he said.

In introducing the legislation, Carmody always maintained he was not taking steps to establish a state religion, but rather to educate people. Critics have accused him of foisting faith inappropriately into the government sphere. Others thought such a designation would trivialize the Bible and its importance.

Initially, Carmody had just been intending to designate a specific, historic copy of the Bible, which he thought could be found in the Louisiana State Museum, as the official state book. But lawmakers amended Carmody's legislation two weeks ago to propose making any copy of the "Holy Bible" the official state book.

Lawmaker pulls bill to make Holy Bible Louisiana's official state book | NOLA.com

The Good Book Taught Badly?: Okla. School District Approves Hobby Lobby Owner’s Bible Course | Americans United

That’s our goal, so that we can reintroduce this book to this nation. This nation is in danger because of its ignorance of what God has taught, ~ Steve Green
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An Oklahoma school district has approved the use of a Bible curriculum designed by Steve Green, the controversial owner of Hobby Lobby. The Mustang public schools will begin offering the curriculum next academic year.

As reported by Religion News Service, Green’s curriculum is designed to correspond with his planned Museum of the Bible, which is currently under construction in Washington, D.C. Jerry Pattengale, who heads the Green Scholars Initiative and is overseeing the curriculum’s development, said the ultimate goal is put the curriculum in “thousands” of schools.

Little is known publicly about the details of the curriculum. However, in a 2013 speech he delivered to the National Bible Association, Green explained that it’s divided into three sections: the history of the Bible, the story of the Bible, and the impact of the Bible.

Classes about the Bible don’t necessarily violate the separation of church and state. It all depends on what is taught and how it’s taught. Green’s speech indicates that he may have ulterior motives.

It appears that Green doesn’t intend to simply teach students history.

“The history is to show the reliability of this book,” he told his audience, and added, “When you present the evidence, the evidence is overwhelming.”

The Good Book Taught Badly?: Okla. School District Approves Hobby Lobby Owner’s Bible Course | Americans United

See also: 

Curricular Controversy: Hobby Lobby President Proposes Bible Elective in Okla. Public School

,,,but Green also has strong ties to Bill Gothard, the leader of an extremist Christian fundamentalist sect roiling with allegations of child abuse.

Gothard’s religious empire includes a homeschool curriculum popular with fundamentalist families, and a nationwide network of training centers and youth programs that exclusively rely on Gothard’s teachings.

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In 2002, Green, acting through his family trust, purchased and then leased a vacant college campus to Gothard’s ministry. A year later, Green, this time acting through Hobby Lobby itself, purchased a shuttered hospital in Little Rock, Ark., and donated it to Gothard for the purposes of building a local training center.

These weren’t mere business transactions, either. The website of one of Gothard’s many ministries features video of Steve Green describing Hobby Lobby’s “desire to share Christ and Disciple others.” And in a review of Gothard’s book, The Amazing Way, David Green, father of Steve Green and founder of Hobby Lobby, wrote that, “Through the example and teachings of Bill Gothard and the Institute in Basic Life Principles, we have benefited both as a family and in our business. It is as we take those lessons from God s Word that Bill clearly articulates that we live the full life that God intends.”

UPDATE::Bill to name the Bible as Louisiana's official state book advances to House floor for debate - Daily Journal

You can't adopt the Bible and not adopt Christianity ~ Rep. Wesley Bishop, D-New Orleans

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Lawmakers are moving ahead with a proposal to name the Bible as Louisiana's official state book, despite concerns the bill would land the Legislature in court.

A House municipal committee advanced the bill Thursday with an 8-5 vote, sending it to the full House for debate.

Rep. Thomas Carmody, R-Shreveport, said he sponsored the proposal after a constituent made the request. But Carmody insisted the bill wasn't designed to be a state-endorsement of Christianity or a specific religion.

"It's not to the exclusion of anyone else's sacred literature," he told the House committee. Again, later he said, "This is not about establishing an official religion of the state of Louisiana."

Bill to name the Bible as Louisiana's official state book advances to House floor for debate - Daily Journal

Louisiana Representative Introduces Bill to Make Bible State Book | Christian News Network

Yea, OK, the time and money to be wasted on this endeavor does what exactly?

A representative in Louisiana has introduced a bill to make the Bible the official book of the state.

Representative Thomas Carmody (R-Shreveport) recently filed HB 503 at the request of Shreveport resident Randy Dill. Dill told local television station KTBS that he has had the desire to make the Bible the state book since 1988, but could not find a lawmaker to help make it happen—until now.

“The Bible was their main inspiration along with our forefathers—Washington and all of them,” he stated. “They looked to it for their inspiration for our country. They called upon God to help us.”

Carmody’s bill would make a certain copy of the Bible in state possession the official state book.

“The official state book shall be the Holy Bible, published by Johannes Prevel, (Prevel, Jean, active 1510-1528, printer, & Petit, Jean, fl. 1492-1530.), which is the oldest edition of the Holy Bible in the Louisiana State Museum system,” HB 502 outlines. “The use on official documents of the state and with the insignia of the state is hereby authorized.”

While the men acknowledge that there will likely be opposition to the measure, they believe that the goal is attainable,,,

Louisiana Representative Introduces Bill to Make Bible State Book | Christian News Network

Atheists Using Bible App to Spread Disbelief | Around the World with Ken Ham

No I don't secretly believe in God!! What I found intriguing, notice that Ham "complains" that an atheist is "READING" the Bible as opposed to being spoon-fed only the most delectable parts (the distasteful parts are left out).

It seems like atheists will go to pretty extreme lengths to combat the words of a God they don’t even believe exists. A recent article from the Religion News Service reports, “Atheists use a popular Bible app to evangelize about unbelief.” The article contains interviews with a number of young atheists who have chosen to use YouVersion, one of the most popular apps around, as a way of trying to shake the faith of Christians.

Now, YouVersion offers over 700 translations of the Bible for free in its app, in an effort to encourage biblical literacy worldwide. The article states, “But Lauren, a 22-year-old chemistry major from Colorado, is not interested in the app’s mission to deepen faith and biblical literacy. A newly minted atheist, she uses her YouVersion Bible app to try to persuade people away from the Christianity she grew up in.”

And, unsurprisingly, these atheists are focusing on supposed contradictions in the Bible to make their points. Lauren, the atheist quoted above, states, “Reading the full story with all its contradictions and violence and sexism, it should make you think, ‘Is this really what I believe in?’”

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But are these atheists interested in the answers to their objections? I would submit that many of them aren’t. One well-known atheist was quoted as saying that one of the “beautiful side effects” of free Bible apps is that “nothing makes you an atheist faster than reading the Bible.” But really, Romans chapter 1 teaches that they know there is a God, and that their disbelief is a willful suppression of the truth.

Atheists Using Bible App to Spread Disbelief | Around the World with Ken Ham

The Gay Debate: The Bible and Homosexuality - YouTube

I don't think I have posted this before, if I have sorry,,,

Just to offer a brief outline for this presentation: I’ll start by considering some of the broader issues and divisions that are behind this debate; and then I’ll move to a closer examination of the main biblical texts that are involved in it; and then I’ll offer some concluding remarks. The issue of homosexuality, of the ordination of gay clergy and of the blessing of same-sex unions, has caused tremendous divisions in the church in recent decades, and the church remains substantially divided over the issue today. On the one hand, the most common themes voiced by those who support changing traditional church teaching on homosexuality are those of acceptance, inclusion, and love, while on the other hand, those who oppose these changes express concerns about sexual purity, holiness, and most fundamentally, the place of Scripture in our communities. Are we continuing to uphold the Bible as authoritative, and are we taking biblical teachings seriously, even if they make us uncomfortable?

The Gay Debate: The Bible and Homosexuality - YouTube

Transcript of the video

5 Shocking Ways the Christian Right Has Forced the Bible Into America's Schools | Alternet

Speaking of science,,,

Not only does replacing science with biblical literalism violate the separation of church and state, it leaves young people massively ill-prepared for higher education. Public universities teach evolution without qualification or apology. A poor understanding of what is considered to be the central organizing principle of science handicaps students from the first day they walk into freshman Biology 101.

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Despite these high stakes, some states, school districts and individual teachers insist on doing students a disservice by promoting scientific illiteracy.

1. Texas: In one of the creationists’ sneakiest moves to date, in 2007 a phalanx of anti-science fundamentalist groups swamped the Texas legislature and lobbied for a law allowing elective courses “about” the Bible in public schools.

2. Louisiana: In the early 1980s, Louisiana legislators decided to pass a law mandating that when evolution was taught in public schools, “creation science” must be as well. Scientists, educators and advocates of church-state separation were appalled and blasted the so-called “balanced treatment” measure, but lawmakers, led by state Sen. Bill Keith, plowed ahead. The bill was soon law.

3. Georgia: Education officials in Cobb County, Georgia have a long and sorry history of trying to undercut instruction about evolution. Any discussion of the “origin of the human species” is banned in elementary and middle schools, and high schools are forbidden to require students to demonstrate an understanding of evolution as a condition of graduation.

4. Pennsylvania: The school board in Dover, PA., a small town south of Harrisburg, thought it would be a good idea in 2004 to introduce “intelligent design” (ID) creationism in public school science classes. (“Intelligent design” holds that human life is so complex that it must have been purposefully designed by some intelligent agency. God and space aliens are the leading contenders, and the IDers aren’t really serious about the space aliens.)

5. Ohio: In 2007, a disturbing incident came to light in Mount Vernon, Ohio. Parents discovered that a science teacher named John Freshwater was secretly teaching creationism to middle-school students.

The aim remains the same: to make evolution appear controversial so public schools will stay away from it. Here, sadly, they’ve had an effect. While it’s difficult to get a handle on what’s going on nationally, educators agree that too many science textbooks don’t give adequate attention to evolution. Some avoid the word entirely, relying on euphemisms like “change over time.”


5 Shocking Ways the Christian Right Has Forced the Bible Into America's Schools | Alternet

8 Gratuitously Violent Horror Movie Scenes (from the Bible) | Cracked.com

#8. The Guy Getting Impaled on a 75-Foot Pole (Esther 7:9-10)

#7. The Dismembering of the Dead Girl (Judges 19:25-29)

#6. The Severed Head on a Platter (Mark 6:21-28)

#5. The Farting of the Intestines (2 Chronicles 21:18-19)

#4. The Double Impaling (Numbers 25:6-8)

#3. The Spike Through the Head (Judges 4:21-22)

#2. The Guy Getting Eaten Alive by Worms (Acts 12:21-23)

#1. Crushed Victims and the Lake of Blood (Revelation 14:20)

8 Gratuitously Violent Horror Movie Scenes (from the Bible) | Cracked.com

My Take: How Thomas Jefferson’s secret Bible might have changed history – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs

 During most of his two terms in the White House, from 1801 to 1809, and for more than a decade afterward, Jefferson – the third U.S. president and the principal author of the Declaration of Independence – committed himself to a radical reinterpretation of the Gospels.

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In Jefferson’s view, this revision represented a faithful record of Christ’s moral code, minus the miracles that the Enlightenment-era founder dismissed as historical mythmaking.

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Jefferson was still working on his Bible during his presidency, so its theoretical publication wouldn’t have compromised his electability. But if the book had been made public after its final completion in 1820, when Jefferson had only six more years to live, it likely would have become one of the most controversial and influential religious works of early American history.

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Jefferson’s minimalist approach to the Gospels reveals an attitude that he disclosed only privately, just months before his death: “I am of a sect by myself, as far as I know."

My Take: How Thomas Jefferson’s secret Bible might have changed history – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs

Actually, that's not in the Bible – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs

The Bible may be the most revered book in America, but it’s also one of the most misquoted. Politicians, motivational speakers, coaches - all types of people  - quote passages that actually have no place in the Bible, religious scholars say.

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But people rarely challenge them because biblical ignorance is so pervasive that it even reaches groups of people who should know better, says Steve Bouma-Prediger, a religion professor at Hope College in Holland, Michigan.


Actually, that's not in the Bible – CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs