Showing posts with label Catholic League. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Catholic League. Show all posts

Tuesday, May 3, 2022

TWATs for WeekEnding 5/1/22

 


Now, I understand we could walk down the street, something could happen. We could be at church, something can happen. One-hundred percent understand that,” Lori Ferguson told WCSC. “My kids asked me where the police were to protect them. They didn’t want to take a shower, in our own home, because now they’re traumatized by what happened tonight.”

 


Sadly this “feeling” (for lack of better term) became all to real within 24-hrs of the NCRM's posting of said story. https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2022/04/now-i-understand-parents-outraged-after-shootout-during-kids-baseball-game-leaves-children-traumatized-video/ It is the second time with 6 weeks that I have felt fear for the children of friends.

 

 

So I haven't shared much NIFBy (New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist) hate of late, thought I would change that. https://onlysky.media/hemant-mehta/preacher-teachers-grooming-kids-should-be-beheaded-on-live-tv/


What fascinates me, they are so predictable with their hate.


He went from the claim that teachers are showing pornographic images to kids (which is a lie), to saying they must be pedophiles (a lie), to saying they should be executed with a gun to the head (WTF…), to saying we should publicly behead those teachers on live television (WTF²).



So my introduction to “furries” was the 2003 episode of CSI called Fur and Loathing. Love or hate the episode it was a stereotypical presentation according to critics. But I became intrigued and did a bit more digging. For brevity, yes there can be a sexual aspect but generally there is not. It is cos-play costume play.


Flash forward 15ish years and I have about 10 individuals on friends list that would be considered part of the furry culture. Needless to say the reality presented does not reflect the reality that exists. Hence reading about this shit does not surprise me. https://www.rawstory.com/furries-at-school-2657218947/


The Austin Independent School District this week fell victim to a harassment campaign after right-wing activist Chaya Raichik falsely accused them of teaching second-graders about furries.

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Shortly after Raichik lobbed false accusations against the Austin Independent School District, it was flooded with angry calls and messages from her followers, who accused the schools of teaching "sexual fetishes" to children.

The school district, for its part, did a review of its curriculum and found no "furry worksheets" created for second-graders.


As Matt Binder from Mashable notes, https://mashable.com/article/libs-of-tiktok-furries-school-troll-fake


Furries are an internet subculture whose members often create an anthropomorphized animal version of themselves and identify and act as that animal character. Furries are not explicitly sexual in nature; however, furry fetish tropes have pigeonholed the community into being identified as such by the mainstream.


Also, according to Binder, Raichik previously spread BS about schools leaving out litter boxes for students that were choosing to "identify as cats."


 

No one has been held accountable because after 60+ court cases no proof was brought forth. And you can bet that if Dr Fauci, for some odd reason, did jack-shit the Reich would still be calling for his head.

https://www.rawstory.com/john-bennett-anthony-fauci/


You would think after 2+ yrs that rational thinking would return.

 


Speaking of rational thought, as one comment notes, “Those who want loyalty and respect, must be worthy of these things first. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE4lb0XTuco


Again, I would like pastor Shane Vaughn to demonstrate the claims he makes. How did President Trump make churches better?



Generally, I do not agree with the Catholic League (Bill Donohue) https://www.catholicleague.org/marjorie-taylor-greene-slanders-catholics/ but when they are lied about by a known crank, a defense is required. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/even-catholic-league-denounces-marjorie-211252848.html While I agree with Greene's assessment of the RCCs handling of the pedo scandal (although she forgets that it is not “just” a RCC issue), she is incorrect in regards to illegal immigration and refugee settlement.


While Catholic Charities receives funding, as do MANY non-profits, they undertake tasks that would otherwise fall to the government; they fulfill a need as well as holding a particular area of expertise. Catholic Charities has a long history of assisting migrants and refugees, and in the long run it saves the gov't money.


In the end it boils down to this. Instead of using a FOX “news” talking point (s) Marjorie, try reading your fucking bible.


"When an alien lives with you in your land, do not mistreat him. The stranger who lives as a foreigner with you shall be to you as the native-born among you, and you shall love him as yourself; for you lived as foreigners in the land of Egypt. I am Yahweh your God." ~Leviticus 19:33-34


It should be noted that Greene did not specify a specific part of Catholic teaching she believes church leaders are violating by aiding immigrants.


 

So, the other day I was asked why I include some of the clips I do. Easy answer, because of the outrageous nature of what is being said. Also, an easy answer, because many of these individuals ARE running for public office. IOWs “we” are responsible for the idiots in office.

Case in point “"Trucker Randy" Bishop, who previously chaired the Antrim County Republican Party filed to run for a seat representing the 37th state Senate District as a Democrat. https://twitter.com/HeartlandSignal/status/1518656851516301312


That in turn has led to scrutiny of his radio rants, one of which in particular where he complained about how mixed families in commercials upset him.“ https://www.rawstory.com/trucker-2657205337/


With that I bring this episode to an end, although I may be adding another installment.


This week I bring to you Mr Mythos. https://www.youtube.com/c/MrMythos An “occult researcher, mythweaver, truth seeker.” What I find interesting, Mr Mythos delves into the Hollow Earth mythos which not many do. For me just something different to watch/listen too.



Tuesday, September 18, 2018

The other day,,,

The last week, Bill Donohue of the Catholic League posted this,,,


We'll ignore his disingenuous language for the moment and focus on two points.

1] I want to remind people that within a week of the AG report becoming public,
 A Roman Catholic priest was charged Tuesday with groping a 17-year-old girl and sending her nude images of himself, just a week after a Pennsylvania grand jury reported the church had covered up decades of priests' child molestation across the state.

The charges of felony corruption of minors and misdemeanor indecent assault against the Rev. Kevin Lonergan, 30, a Pottstown, Pennsylvania, native who most recently served as pastor at the Cathedral of St. Catherine of Siena in Allentown, were not a result of the landmark grand jury investigation but stemmed from a complaint filed in June after the grand jury had finished its work, authorities said.
This is but one of many current abuse related cases that pepper this blog. So yes Bill, this is an ongoing problem and not one from a century ago.

These are cases were the victims are, for the most part, still alive; some of the perps are not. You make it sound as if nobody should be accountable for an institutional problem.

As a reminder the issue of child sexual abuse is not only a RCC problem nor is it a religious one!

2] According to Bill we are to ignore all the abuse cases that have occurred in the last 70 years, like this one,
A former priest implicated in the explosive Pennsylvania child sex abuse report served at multiple Colorado churches in the early 1980s, just a few years after allegedly engaging in repeated sexual assault of three brothers in Pennsylvania.

Stephen Edward Jeselnick, 67, was among hundreds of clergymen accused of child sexual abuse by a Pennsylvania grand jury last month. The two-year investigation revealed that leaders within six Catholic dioceses worked to hide the sexual abuse of more than 1,000 children over 70 years.

Jeselnick, who currently lives in Colorado Springs, served in the Archdiocese of Denver for nearly seven months from December 1982 to June 1983 on a trial assignment, according to the Archdiocese. Just a few years prior, in the late 1970s, he allegedly engaged in repeated sexual assault of three brothers in Meadeville, Pa., according to the grand jury report. The Pennsylvania brothers, now adults, told the grand jury that Jeselnick’s abuse included genital fondling, oral sex and anal sex, the report states. Jeselnick allegedly abused them in their home and at church, where their mother worked, the report continues.

Initially assigned to St. Mary’s Church in Littleton, Jeselnick was reassigned to the Shrine of St. Anne Church in Arvada in the spring of 1983.

He then served at the Holy Trinity Catholic Church in Colorado Springs as assistant pastor from 1983 to 1985. He requested, but was denied, formal acceptance into the Colorado Springs diocese in 1985, the grand jury report states, before joining the Air Force as a chaplain.
all because the SOL ran out.

What you haven't mentioned Bill is that you, celebrated the defeat of the Child Victims Act (NY-2016). Comparing it to “rape” of the Catholic Church over the issue of child sex abuse.  Sorry Bill it doesn't work that way!

To borrow from Hitch, you Mr Donohue - your church -  has institutionalized the rape and torture of children.


And for the record Bill, your lobbying and the church's lobbying in reality show the Church's guilt. You have admitted that the child abuse problem and its potential cost to the Church are bigger than we know. Despite promises Pope Francis has no plans for justice or compensation for victims

My question to you Mr. Donohue is why?  Why are you so against legal justice?  Why spend over $2 million on lobbying from 2007 through the end of 2015,  want to prevent this bill from passage? Why would you not want to end many legal roadblocks for victims of childhood sexual abuse?

Answer:: you dont want your money cow being "raped".
While we're at it Bill, about your use of Soviet style propaganda,,,

You are content to play the "what-aboutism" game. Forgetting that people who are guilty can find comfort in finding others to be as bad or worse.  As I noted above about your lobbying, you have admitted to the child abuse problem.  You discredit yourself as a critic.   Rhetorical devices prevent discussion of issues at hand; it is a strategy of false moral equivalences.

Neither Hollywood nor public schools hold themselves to a higher moral standard.  Nor do they expect gov't or individuals to cow-tow to your special needs.

Saturday, June 25, 2016

Catholic League President celebrates defeat of Child Victims Act - NY Daily News

If my vague recollection serves me correctly, both Pennsylvania and New York were both seeking an extension of the statute of limitations in regards to church sex abuse against children.  Due to my self imposed exile, I am not familiar with the arguments from either side.  What I did find telling was this part of Donohoe's statement noted by NY Daily News:
“If the statute of limitations were lifted on offenses involving the sexual abuse of minors, the only winners would be greedy and bigoted lawyers out to line their pockets in a rash of settlements,” Donohue railed. “The big losers would be the poor, about whom the attorneys and activists care little: When money is funneled from parishioners to lawyers, services to the needy suffer. “
Well Mr Donohoe, maybe if your church didn't have a 50+ year history of cover-up that has finally hit the light of day, you wouldn't feel as if your money cow was being "raped".

Let's remove the denominational bias for the moment, as we all know this is not just a Catholic problem, and the fact that the Catholic League is independent organization that does not speak authoritatively for the Church.  I have this question to ask of Mr Donohoe:  Are you fucking human?

Catholic League President celebrates defeat of Child Victims Act - NY Daily News

Sunday, January 11, 2015

ADDENDUM::Coward Donohue doesn't understand liberty - Freedom From Religion Foundation

Donohue’s appalling beliefs are a bigger threat to freedom than any satirical cartoon. First, he entirely misses the point of free speech, thinking it a right meant only for “political discourse.” As I pointed out yesterday, the purpose of freedom of speech is to protect the freedom of thought. It’s understandable that Donohue has no conception of that most basic and important freedom because he thinks that “Narcissistic artists who associate obscenity with creativity would do us all a favor if they converted to Catholicism.” He thinks that “Catholicism is the answer.”

Second, Donohue wants self-censorship. Like the shooters, he want's the people he disagrees with to shut up. His and their goals are the same. Their methods are different. Donohue doesn't resort to violence, but he wants people to give in to their fear—see his parting quip to Ms. Kelly—and cower under the threat of religiously motivated violence. He thinks trembling under Islam’s blade is moral. He thinks giving in to a bully’s demand is ethical. In short, Bill Donohue is a coward.
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Special treatment for religion and the religious is society’s biggest stumbling block to true freedom. Religion is an idea or set of ideas that cannot be free from criticism on any level, legal or moral. Of course, Donohue must know deep down that he wants this special treatment because religious ideas—blasphemy, vicarious redemption, heaven and hell, original sin, etc.—cannot withstand criticism. Without that protection, religion crumbles. That’s why Donohue wants to be a sacred cow.

Coward Donohue doesn't understand liberty - Freedom From Religion Foundation

Friday, January 9, 2015

ADDENDUM::Megyn Kelly puts Bill Donohue in his place by linking Larry Flynt and Charlie Hebdo

Fox News host Megyn Kelly called Catholic League president Bill Donohue out on Thursday over his remarks concerning the mass shooting attack against the satirists at Charlie Hebdo.

“I understand you didn’t like the message,” Kelly said, before asking him, “Did you really think they were not courageous in the face of death threats to be publishing what they did?”

“No. I think, first of all, they’re pornographers disguised as satirists,” Donohue replied. “We’re not talking about Mel Brooks. We’re talking about the functional equivalent of Larry Flynt going to print.”

While Donohue compared the French satirists to the Hustler publisher in a derisive manner, Kelly argued that the Supreme Court’s 1988 decision affirming Flynt’s right to mock public figures protected even “scatological” satire, calling it “the bedrock of the First Amendment.”

“The political cartoon is a weapon of attack, of scorn and ridicule and satire; it is least effective when it tries to pat some politician on the back,” she said, quoting from Chief Justice William Rehnquist’s decision. “It is usually as welcome as a bee sting and is always controversial in some quarters.”

Megyn Kelly puts Bill Donohue in his place by linking Larry Flynt and Charlie Hebdo

Thursday, January 8, 2015

After Charlie Hebdo attack, U.S. Catholic group says cartoonists ‘provoked’ slaughter - The Washington Post

In the aftermath of the deadly assault on the offices of Charlie Hebdo, a French satirical newspaper, much of the world has rallied in solidarity with the publication, its irreverent cartoonists and their right to free speech.

But not everyone is so supportive. Bill Donohue, president of the Catholic League, a U.S. organization that "defends the rights of Catholics," issued a statement titled "Muslims are right to be angry." In it, Donohue criticized the publication's history of offending the world's religiously devout, including non-Muslims. The murdered Charlie Hebdo editor Stephane Charbonnier "didn’t understand the role he played in his [own] tragic death," the statement reads.

"Had [Charbonnier] not been so narcissistic, he may still be alive," Donohue says, in what must be one of the more offensive and insensitive comments made on this tragic day.

"Killing in response to insult, no matter how gross, must be unequivocally condemned. That is why what happened in Paris cannot be tolerated," says Donohue. "But neither should we tolerate the kind of intolerance that provoked this violent reaction."

After Charlie Hebdo attack, U.S. Catholic group says cartoonists ‘provoked’ slaughter - The Washington Post

Wednesday, December 17, 2014

Bill Donohue: Non-Religious People Need Therapy Since They Die Prematurely And Are Disproportionately Insane | Right Wing Watch

I really like Hemant Mehta's break-down of Donohue's bullshit. Although, I am curious as to the book he says is in the works.
In all of these cases, though, Donohue purposely ignores the elephant in the room: None of these things happen because people are atheists. It has everything to do with the social aspects of it.

Atheism correlates with all those awful things because religious people tend to have things like stronger communities and more hope (albeit false hope) and people to turn to when they’re depressed. Atheists have to essentially fend for themselves or create alternatives that are nowhere near the scope or size of what religions provide.

Similarly, when atheists speak about their beliefs publicly, it’s usually in response to events that make us upset or angry — so we come off as more defensive (i.e. unhappy). Christians, on the other hand, tend to talk about their relationship with God when they’re writing blog posts or books. (These are huge generalizations, of course, but you get the idea.)

So back to the point: Donohue is doing what he does best: Lying to make himself look better. He takes general pieces of information, siphons off all the necessary nuance, and pretends that the evidence suggests atheists are inherently immoral, unhappy, and insane.

Bill Donohue: Non-Religious People Need Therapy Since They Die Prematurely And Are Disproportionately Insane | Right Wing Watch

Monday, August 4, 2014

ADDENDUM::Gay Sex Investigation Of Archbishop Is Payback For His Condemning Brokeback Mountain: Donohue - The New Civil Rights Movement

The nation was shocked when Minneapolis/St. Paul Archbishop John Nienstedt was accused of having inappropriate contact with a young boy. Nienstedt was cleared of those charges but soon after it was revealed that the 67-year old virulently anti-gay Roman Catholic leader was being investigated -- by his own parish -- for sexual relations with men.

Nienstedt has repeatedly denied the charges, though he was quick to respond to them, touting that the "allegations do not involve minors or lay members of the faithful, and they do not implicate any kind of illegal or criminal behavior."

Now, the Catholic League's Bill Donohue is riding to Nienstedt's rescue -- which he desperately needs in light of all the calls for his resignation -- but with lies.

"It's all about homosexuality," Donohue insists in a press release yesterday. "Ever since Archbishop Nienstedt criticized the pro-gay film, 'Brokeback Mountain,' he has been targeted by homosexual activists all over the nation. So it is hardly surprising to read a story on him in today's New York Times that cites his take on the movie. Had he liked it, and had he been silent on the subject of gay marriage, no one would be calling for his resignation."

Donohue did not point to any particular "homosexual activist," and in fact, all the calls for Nienstedt to resign have come not from any LGBT organization or gay activist but from lay Catholics, the Archdiocese's own chancellor for canonical affairs, and major donors to the Church. And the calls for resignation are not because of the charges of inappropriate sexual activity, but for Archbishop Nienstedt's gross mishandling of sexual abuse cases that were covered up, and his refusal to force priests to step down.

Gay Sex Investigation Of Archbishop Is Payback For His Condemning Brokeback Mountain: Donohue - The New Civil Rights Movement