Anderson's horrid Deborah and Barack sermon https://interestinghmm.blogspot.com/2013/09/no-longer-fringe.html
David
Silverman in 2011.
http://interestinghmm.blogspot.com/2011/09/my-mind-is-changing.html
Suris
and Atheist Rationale have put out a wonderful video - The
NIFB, Know Who They are, and What They Do (Ft. The Atheist
Rationalle)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG13mzYzBZo
Steve
Anderson sermon transcripts
http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/page9.html
Anderson
https://www.youtube.com/user/sanderson1611
is the pastor at Faithful Word Baptist Church
http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/
in Tempe, AZ.
Reaction
to the Pulse shooting
https://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/2016/06/news-you-tube-pulls-steven-andersons-video-rejoicing-over-orlando-deaths/
http://sanderson1611.blogspot.com/2017/12/aids-free-christmas-revisited.html
According
to Phoenix New Times,
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/christopher-broughtons-pastor-steven-anderson-prays-for-president-barack-obamas-death-6500993
Crooks and Liars https://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/gospel-hate-arizona-pastor-steve-and and MSNBC [?], https://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/reportage-youll-never-see-fox-msnbcs
Bruce
Gerencser
https://brucegerencser.net/2015/04/understanding-steven-anderson-pastor-faithful-word-baptist-church-tempe-arizona/
has a nice 2015, pre NIFB, article Concerning Anderson.
Tommy
McMurtry
of Liberty Baptist Church, Rock Falls, IL.
http://www.libertybaptistrockfalls.com/
(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiiWlHHTQfHgJT5qXLp9x6g)
the
best critiques of christians are other christians – they can be
brutal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gcao2TYVoxo
Simply
put, McMurty is notorious for ''othering”
https://youtu.be/QG13mzYzBZo?t=535
McMurty
for all it's worth mirrors Anderson's rhetoric. Right down to
killing LGBTQI+
Today,
A Youtube Channel named “Let God Burn Them Quickly!” uploaded a
video where Tommy McMurtry is recorded as saying he hoped for
protesters and violence at the MASA conference giving them the
opportunity to kill people while hiding behind the “Stand Your
Ground” law in Florida.
“Pray that if they do any protests that it gets violent … they have Stand Your Ground in Florida”
He
continues to say that since they can fight back he wants people to
become violent so that he can legally “protect” himself against
people he perceives to be “an easy win.” The NIFB is known for
brandishing weapons and stalking their critics.(Note
both the channel and video in question have been removed from YT for
hate speech.) http://nifbcult.com/tommy-mcmurtry-prays-for-violence/
His
claim to fame https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v80042QppE
… we believe they should be put to death. They should die! And I will never grieve over a sodomite that is killed or that is put to death or any other way that they die, I will never grieve for that. In fact, I will rejoice over that.
Make a clip out of that and put that in the news.
The
“reprobate doctrine” which is that sodomites cannot be saved.
https://newifb.info/index.php/2018/09/16/bruce-mejia-preaches-that-sodomites-cannot-be-saved/
I
should note that I relied on other KJV Only ministries that also
counter Anderson's twisted reprobate doctrine.
Refuting
the Unbiblical Reprobate Doctrine
(Be
forewarned this guy actually does “reluctantly” support Anderson,
just not his version of the reprobate doctrine
https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Truths/why_promote_pastor_steven_anderson.htm
The
False “Reprobate” Doctrine
http://www.newcovenantbaptist.org/the-false-reprobate-doctrine/
(There is a video associated that's actually kinda interesting)
The
influence of Jack Hyles,,,
The
Reprobate
Doctrine
crowd rally behind a sermon clip by Dr. Jack Hyles, which Pastor
Steven Anderson has titled, “Jack Hyles Explains Reprobate
Doctrine.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtAzR-OGTT8&feature=youtu.be
In the sermon clip Hyles simply teaches that there is a line which
an unsaved person can cross, beyond which they cannot be saved.
Adam
Fannin
at this point, although it really doesn't quite fit. Fannin is
important for two reasons. 1] He also heavily preached the Reprobate
Doctrine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRe8wu9hlB4
among other vile things; 2] he now calls NIFBC a cult. (Pastor Steven
Anderson's THE NEW IFB MAFIA is a Cannibalistic Cult - Adam Fannin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDDEeeKoxgE)
According to NewIFB.info http://newifb.info/index.php/2019/06/15/adam-fannins-exit-from-the-new-ifb/
According to NewIFB.info http://newifb.info/index.php/2019/06/15/adam-fannins-exit-from-the-new-ifb/
The
accusation of cult is surprising as it appears he still endorses the
same flawed teachings.
https://newifb.info/index.php/2019/06/15/warning-law-of-liberty-baptist-church-in-jacksonville-fl-teaches-false-new-ifb-teaching/
Which
brings us to the fallout from the booting Donnie
Romero
over bad behavior
https://www.star-telegram.com/living/religion/article223928990.html
At
one point, Romero was a disciple of Anderson's. Commissioned and
sent out from Anderson’s Faithful Word Baptist Church to plant a
church in the Dallas-Fort Worth area.
http://stevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com/2014/08/church-growth.html
(Anderson's wife Zsuzsanna' blog) BUT recently he had a massive fall
from grace.
https://brucegerencser.net/2019/01/ifb-preacher-donnie-romero-caught-cavorting-with-prostitutes-smoking-weed-and-gambling/
His
claim to fame is a 2014 sermon where he preached the message that
all gays should “be put to death.”
http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/texas-pastor-dirty-faggots-want-to-snatch-and-rape-your-kids/
"I'm going to explain to you why God wants these people to be put to death. … The word of God is very clear that God is against the sodomites, that they're filthy and it says they're an abomination to God. … I love that part of the Bible, and I'm going to preach that part of the Bible until the day I die, and if I ever stop preaching that part of the Bible, I hope my kids tell me, 'Dad, you're going soft on sin, you need to get up there and rip on these queers, because it's only getting worse and worse.'
"And amen to what Pastor Anderson said — I'm not going to let any of these dirty faggots inside of my church. They are all pedophiles. … They're always trying to rape and hurt other people. They're relentless. They are relentless. They are predators and given an opportunity to snatch one of your children, they would do it in a heartbeat." http://www.towleroad.com/2014/12/arizona-pastors-texas-disciple-says-gays-are-filthy-faggots-who-want-to-snatch-and-rape-children/
Bruce
Gerencser has a nice post concerning the Romero debacle here.
https://brucegerencser.net/2019/01/steven-andersons-new-ifb-movement-erupts-into-a-food-fight-over-donnie-romero/
Jonathan
Shelley heads the Stedfast
Baptist Church http://stedfastbaptistkjv.org/
in Fort Worth TX 76114. Besides the debacle above concerning Romero,
Shelley is known as the man who wants to stone unruly kids among
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIns-wVlrw4
… [Kids are] going to continue being more rebellious, more mocking, more arrogant, more prideful. You see, it’s never enough. They just want to keep mocking their parents and disobeying their parents. You’ve got to squash out the rebellion in your child.
…
You
know you could squash rebellion in a public school today? Take the
rebellious one out and stone him. I bet they’d shapen up pretty
quick. I bet they’d figure out, “Maybe I should hearken under the
authorities in my life.” And we see, unfortunately, our society is
continually destroying itself, because [all of these] rebellious,
arrogant, prideful teenage jerks that just don’t want to hearken to
their parents, you know, and God said they should be put to death.
The
guy that’s the lazy gamer, “I don’t want to get a job. I just
want to play video games all day and drink alcohol with my buddies,”
that guy should be put to death.
You
know what? As a young man, you should be able to work! And you should
work hard! And you should be sober! And the man that’s not going to
do that, God says, “Well, I think you’re worthy of death.”
That’s pretty serious.
Now
obviously, in this society we live in today, this would never happen,
right? America, this isn’t happening. You can’t take your child
up to the government and say, “Look, this guy won’t listen to us,
hearken to us.”
But
here’s the thing. When man fails to execute God’s judgment, do
you think God’s just gonna let that go? God will repay. When man
fails to put someone to death, God will take care of it. And if
you’re a stubborn and rebellious child, you better be careful every
single step you take…
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/01/22/baptist-preacher-rebellious-kids-in-public-schools-should-be-stoned-to-death/
“They
hate God. God has already given them up,” he says in the video.
“That’s the reason they’re doing these vile, disgusting things.
They’re beasts, they’re wicked, they’re abominable, they’re
filthy today.”
At this point in time I have no information confirming or denying an ongoing relationship with the NIFBC or Anderson. The closest confirmation is this piece coming out of WSB-TV2 in Atlanta, https://www.wsbtv.com/news/2-investigates/metro-atlanta-church-may-soon-be-listed-on-national-list-of-hate-groups/911741190
Berzins
moved to Atlanta last summer. He comes from Arizona, where he was
ordained at the Word of Truth Baptist Church. If that church sounds
familiar, it’s because the pastor there made national news in 2009
when he said he prayed for President Barack Obama’s death. The
reason: Obama is pro-choice.
Both
pastors call themselves New Independent Fundamental Baptists. The
group’s website lists 21 churches in the United States. Berzins
says they are not a denomination, but a group of like-minded
churches.
But Berzins' whopper besides the mimickery of Anderson was his defense of Anderson when a fellow pastor requested that his website be removed from Anderson‘s church directory.
As Hemant noted over at Friendly Atheist. “Berzins went on a rant about how that guy did the whole Christian world a disservice with his request. Because, really, what’s the big deal about stoning homosexuals?” https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2015/04/15/christian-pastor-condemns-colleague-for-not-wanting-gay-people-put-to-death/
I like the guy [who wanted to be removed from the directory]. He’s a Christian, he’s saved, he does soul-winning, he believes in a King James Bible, it’s a Baptist church. Independent Fundamental Baptist church.
He believes homosexuality is wickedness, and he preaches against it.
But just because they don’t believe that [homosexuals] should be stoned, which — I think it’s very clear… Look, God came up with the laws of the Old Testament! They’re breathed by the Lord. And if you think that you know better on how to run a country than God has ordained, you think your laws are better…
…
When you choose to be disassociated and break fellowship with a fellow Christian or a fellow church over something like that, you are just giving the enemy that much more ground and you’re letting them win… Now look, if you think they shouldn’t be put to death, fine. If you don’t think that should be the government’s role, but you believe the Bible and you’re against homosexuality, this is not a cause to break fellowship over… Don’t break fellowship with someone who simply believes that Leviticus 20:13 should be in application in our government today.
…
… Now, you’re gonna break fellowship over fellow Christians over this issue because you’re too scared! Because you’re scared about retaliation from these perverts! Don’t be scared! They’ve vile and wicked and you need to be standing up and standing together…
Next
we have Aaron
Thompson,
of Verity Baptist Church in Vancouver, Washington.
https://veritybaptistvancouver.com/index.html
And yes he is clone of all the rest. VBC is a satellite ministry of
Verity Baptist Church in Sacramento, CA under the leadership of
Pastor Roger Jimenez (up next).
His
claim to fame and why he is on my radar, he preaches biblical reason
not to get vaxxed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7QwV1kajc8
Yes these cretins are anti-vaxx among other things. (More on that
later.)
I
may do a comparison to Kent Hovind,
https://interestinghmm.blogspot.com/2016/04/show-notesjust-no.html
(3-parts)
Roger
Jimenez, also of Verity
Baptist Church https://veritybaptist.com/
but in Sacramento, CA . Like all the rest he is a clone of Anderson,
which is bizarre as he has family (by marriage) who is a member of
the LGBTQI+ community.
https://fox40.com/2016/06/18/family-of-varity-baptist-church-pastor-ashamed-of-his-anti-lgbt-comments/
His
assholery by now is or should be well known. Within days of the
Pulse shooting, he stated in a sermon
https://heavy.com/news/2016/06/pastor-roger-jimenez-praises-orlando-massacre-youtube-video-mass-shooting-gay-isis-omar-mateen/
Are
you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed today?” asked Jimenez. “Um
no. I think that’s great. I think that helps society. I think
Orlando, Florida, is a little safer tonight. The tragedy is that more
of them didn’t die. The tragedy is I’m kind of upset he didn’t
finish the job – because these people are predators. They are
abusers.
He
doubled down on that statement during his speech during
MASA.
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/06/15/here-are-the-lowlights-from-day-1-of-the-anti-lgbtq-christian-hate-conference/ and as Heavy notes,
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/06/15/here-are-the-lowlights-from-day-1-of-the-anti-lgbtq-christian-hate-conference/ and as Heavy notes,
Jimenez
defended his sermon to ABC 10,
https://www.abc10.com/article/news/local/sacramento/sacramento-baptist-pastor-praises-orlando-massacre/243211965
and said he had no regrets. “My whole point was, if people die who
deserved to die, we don’t need to be mourning them. This gunman
that went in there and shot those people up, the Bible says he
deserves to die, and we shouldn’t be mourning his death either.”
Patrick
Boyle
of Revival Baptist Church in Orlando; the host church
https://www.revivalbaptistorlando.com/
I don't have much on this guy other than he insists he’s just
echoing the Bible when he says gay people “are worthy of death.”
His
church’s PayPal account was taken down after atheist activists
reported it.
https://twitter.com/ge_kaitlyn/status/1137424608620163072
Grayson
Fritts
of All Scripture Baptist Church https://allscripturebaptist.com/
Knoxville, TN .
https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/local/2019/06/13/knox-county-detective-calls-lgbtq-executions-what-we-know/1440547001/
My personal information is a bit sketchy and outdated as I,
literally while scripting, discovered he is NIFBC and allegedly has
preached at Anderson's church.
Andrew
Seidel's blurp from the FFRF, “FFRF Director of Strategic Andrew
Seidel discusses how FFRF is calling on the Knox County Sheriff's
Department to probe Deputy Grayson Fritts’ wrathful demand for the
government to execute LGBTQ citizens. Fritts called for state
violence against LGBTQ citizens he called “sodomites” and
“queers,” even likening them to “animals.”
No
information or very little,,,
Joe Major of Faith Baptist Church in LA gave a guest sermon at the Philippines church of Logan Robertson. In a sermon titled “Make The World Straight Again,” Major told the raucous crowd about how all homosexuals were inherently pedophiles and that’s why they deserved to be executed. https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/06/18/christian-hate-preacher-gay-people-are-selfish-pedophiles-who-must-be-killed/
“I want to share some of their comments here only because people need to know what sort of bigotry is being justified in the name of Christ. You can’t push back against it unless you know what they’re saying.” https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/06/15/here-are-the-lowlights-from-day-1-of-the-anti-lgbtq-christian-hate-conference/
Some
others in the movement that are prevalent on YouTube
Ben the Baptist https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpSSfgoF2AVKB8q4Qoq-aDw
Matt Powell https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUFgmArK_ljP52HJLBmMoQg
If you remember, Matt Powell is the pencil-neck, 22ish y/o nuckfutzthat has said things like atheists were Coke-drinking video game addicts and scientists were hiding the truth about the Sun and moon. As Hemant notes, he sat for an interview with Skylar Fiction, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MWJ_BgzaWY when shit really hit the fan when he said to Skylar that the government should execute gay people. https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/07/04/youtube-punishes-atheist-for-exposing-christian-who-wants-gay-people-executed/
… as
far as homosexuality goes, you know, I believe the Bible puts the
death penalty on it.
I believe it’s disgusting. And incidentally, every scientific test
has come back and said that homosexuals are 50 more times likely to
get AIDS… we got this AIDS thing spreading… it’s a fact that
this is the case.
Skylars interview was taken down by YT and a debacle commenced. So of course I had to get Skylar and we did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgDdeIJncmk&t=48s
(Episode 159 interview with Skylar Fiction)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uZQaTqezgo
(Suris does a wonderful take down of Powell)
Standing For Truth
Framing The World (Paul Wittenburger)
Jonathan Kragen
“If
I had a button on the pulpit that I could push and every homosexual
would fall over dead, I would push it till I break my finger.”
During
the build-up to the MASA rally, Mike Winger
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7u2HaYBKDaLPcWmldxgGEA
of Bible Thinker https://biblethinker.org/index.php/about-mike,
posted the following video Steven
Anderson vs The Biblical Gospel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUkn0Fl86sE
Enter Prophet of ZOD who has a good take as well concerning Winger's reaction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3aPHS_6Gro (highly recommend!!)
Tangentially
related I
Asked a Pastor the Same Question that Made his Daughter an Atheist!
(Matt Slick vs David Smalley)
https://holykoolaid.com/is-god-a-moral-monster/
As
Anderson is fond of saying, if you dont agree, leave.
What
is the NIFBC http://nifbcult.com/what-is-the-nifb-movement/
I
would add,
4]
Part of their unofficial doctrine Conspiracy Theories
https://www.thenewifb.com/documentaries
- 9/11 Conspiracies
- Anti-Vaccination
- Chemtrails
- Water Fluoridation
What they believe (the same or similar can be found at each associated church website http://nifbcult.com/nifb-churches/, this from Verity in CA)
“Founded and controlled by Anderson, the ‘New” IFB church movement believes that the “old” IFB church movement has moved away from its core beliefs and practices. While this is true is some instances, there is very little difference between the churches of these groups. Both groups are cultic; both are Evangelical in doctrine; both are conservative politically; both practice personal separation (from the world) and many of the churches practice secondary separation (refusing to fellowship with churches/pastors who have connections with compromising churches/pastors/colleges); both are evangelistic; both believe the Bible is inerrant (and many use only the King James Bible); both believe they alone are True Christians®. One thing is for certain, Steven Anderson is the de facto pope of the “New” IFB church movement.” https://brucegerencser.net/2019/01/steven-andersons-new-ifb-movement-erupts-into-a-food-fight-over-donnie-romero/Here's what the NIFBC states, https://www.thenewifb.com/what-is-the-new-ifb
The
New Independent Fundamental Baptist Movement is a title used to
identify churches and believers from around the world who take the
word of God seriously. The movement is a revival of what the old IFB
once represented. The movement is a new generation going back to the
old paths. Each church that is associated with the movement is
independent and each Pastor submits himself to the word of God and
the Lord Jesus Christ. The movement is not a denomination. Each
Pastor may see things somewhat differently than the other
Pastors, resulting in differing beliefs on various minor
issues. However, all of the churches in the movement are united on
the following important doctrines: *FAITH ALONE FOR SALVATION
*ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED *KING JAMES BIBLE ONLY *TRINITY
*SOUL-WINNING *HARD PREACHING *ANTI-WORLDLINESS *ANTI-CALVINISM
*ANTI-DISPENSATIONAL *ANTI-ZIONISM *POST-TRIB
PRE-WRATH RAPTURE
Is
NIFBC a cult?
As
I use a different model, I have relied on Telltale's,
Steven
Anderson - Is He A Cult Leader? (2019) (BITE Model Breakdown)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCpohuR74RA.
Simply put, https://freedomofmind.com/bite-model/
Generate
and use propaganda extensively -
https://www.thenewifb.com/documentaries
as well as YT personalities like Matt Powell
Shun
you if you disobey or disbelieve – they
do shun and they will kick you out; public shaming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckUS9DkZ0c0
Content
Creators
GodlessEngineer
https://www.youtube.com/user/godlessengineer
The
Atheist Rationale
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsj1Jml7hvdin3MnRYKc8Eg
Note::
the Kragen Clan are ex-NIFBC
Mr
Atheist aka Mr Pumpkin
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgeV3tFiU2Xg0PD1dAQbBHA
Prophet
of Zod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zebCkqbIkJY
Atheist
Vanguard
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCsaF-FNi0-zVCuhJ5I0xbA
I
do have one special thank you, and that is to Suris
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh-YXgnF0tmBxCsh4w_4svw
for allowing me to use the clip in its entirety. It is 4 minutes,
but so very worthy of play.
We
Deserve to Live (A Response to the NIFB)
