Showing posts with label Steven L Anderson. Show all posts
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Thursday, June 23, 2022

A Few More Stories for Week Ending 6/19/22

 


As the article notes, the Nevada GOP should not be surprised when something they helped create, election conspiracy theorists, bites them in the ass. https://www.rawstory.com/absolute-joke-republicans-disappointed-after-pro-trump-nevada-gop-primary-loser-cries-fraud/

 Joe Lombardo, the former Clark County sheriff who rebranded in the primary as a hardline right-winger, is projected by the Associated Press to defeat Gilbert, a COVID truther and voter fraud conspiracy theorist who marched on the Capitol on Jan. 6. Lombardo led Gilbert 38.4% to 27.6% with 82% of precincts reporting Wednesday morning.

Gilbert immediately declared that he would not concede the race and may even file a lawsuit contesting the race.

"Maybe the establishment and swamp rats forgot who they're dealing with," he wrote on Facebook, adding a rat emoji. "I smell a lawsuit because this STINKS! I will concede nothing. No one likes No Show Joe and he absolutely is not beating me, and will not beat me in a fair fight/race. There's a reason a real fighter with real legal teams is in this fight."

https://www.facebook.com/GilbertForGovernor/posts/318281433852717

Keep in mind, this is Michele Fiore's home state.

 

An unnerving ending to a story I posted about in February. https://www.wtvy.com/2022/06/10/auburn-man-arrested-leaving-flowers-fiancs-grave-found-guilty/

We have new details on a case we’ve been following for weeks. An Auburn man gained national attention after being arrested for leaving flowers on his fiancée’s grave.

The arrest warrant for Winston Hagans had a charge for littering after he left a flower box on his fiancée’s grave. Earlier today, the judge heard both sides on if a flower box should be considered litter or not.

In court during Thursday’s bench trial, Judge Jim McLaughlin found Hagans guilty of criminal littering after leaving flowers on his fiancée’s grave with a $50 charge for littering and a court fine of $250.

The defense plans to appeal the decision. However, the city prosecutor said there would be no jail time if Hagans agreed not to place any more boxes on the grave.

As much as I hate to say it, let it go. Experience speaking, you are not going to win against the parent(s).

So Kent,,, should we expect this “death angel” by the mid-term or 2024? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpjpAkfLK8I

You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?” If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed. (Deuteronomy 18:21-22, NIV)

https://twitter.com/LucienGreaves/status/1535663005190569984

Thankfully no one was injured, not that dude cared. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/massachusetts/articles/2022-06-14/man-charged-with-fire-at-satanic-temple-pleads-not-guilty

A Massachusetts man charged with setting fire to The Satanic Temple's headquarters in Salem was ordered held without bail Monday.

Daniel Damien Lucey, 42, of Chelsea, pleaded not guilty to arson, destruction of a place of worship and civil rights violation charges during his arraignment in Salem District Court. He's due back in court next Tuesday to determine whether he can be released or poses a danger.

Prosecutors say a doorbell security camera captured Lucey pouring lighter fluid on the porch of The Satanic Temple headquarters, lighting a fire and walking away Friday night.

Lucey, who was wearing a T-shirt emblazoned with the word “God,” also left a backpack containing a copy of the U.S. Constitution and a Bible.

 

There is not much I can say but DISGUSTING!! https://www.salon.com/2022/06/14/texas-attorney-general-ken-paxton-on-the-uvalde-massacre-god-has-a-plan/

In an interview with right-wing radio host Trey Graham, Paxton acknowledged that it is "difficult to give comfort" to families who lost their kids. "If I lost one of my children I'd be pretty devastated, especially in a way that is so senseless and seemingly has no purpose," he continued. "I think ... I would just have to say, if I had the opportunity to talk to the people I'd have to say, look, there's always a plan. I believe God always has a plan. Life is short no matter what it is. And certainly, we're not going to make sense of, you know, a young child being shot and killed way before their life expectancy."

 

This comment says it all, “Dude forgot about the separation of church and state and that this nation is a melting pot not a single ingredient.” https://twitter.com/hemantmehta/status/1538231602626568192

The “mistake” Anderson makes - supposed to be a christian nation. Where in the U.S. Constitution does it say, or even hint at that? This is why no religious tests are allowed for government office.

As I stated prior, https://interestinghmm.blogspot.com/2022/06/twats25-for-week-ending-61222.html

Bear in mind, the only reference to religion in the Constitution is in Article VI: “No religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.” IOWs, political power in the United States may never be limited to people of one faith – a necessary condition for a “Christian nation” – but must be open to people of all faiths or none. 

 

https://twitter.com/RepMTG/status/1536863160996593665

According to NPR this is not just an MTG issue. Republican legislators in Georgia, Florida, Arizona, Texas (and other states) are trying to crack down, with proposals to ban minors from drag shows. https://www.npr.org/2022/06/16/1105544325/drag-shows-children 

What I would ask MTG et al, would you ban children from Hooters?

Dressing in drag isn't a sexual act and Drag performances/events can be tailored toward children or all-ages audiences. Parents are perfectly free not to take their children to events with drag performers, but parents should also be free to do so, too.

In other MTG news, she's an idiot. https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2022/06/actually-healthy-for-us-marjorie-taylor-greene-promotes-global-warming-and-more-carbon-video/ Everything she states is wrong!!

As Badash note, MTG opposes “the worldwide scientific consensus that climate change is harming the earth and may lead to mass extinction,” declaring “that global warming is good for the planet and humans.”

See also:: Professor Stick, Climate Change is Good Because Less Cold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAkylqN_bks

The episode would not be complete without Bobo news,,, but, TBH, I cant make heads or tails of her whacked out BS. Sadly the required explainers are too lengthy. So, I have decided to cut this episode short.

With that I bid you adieu,,,

Monday, July 8, 2019

Show Notes:: We talk NIFB (Extremely Long)





Anderson's horrid Deborah and Barack sermon https://interestinghmm.blogspot.com/2013/09/no-longer-fringe.html


Suris and Atheist Rationale have put out a wonderful video - The NIFB, Know Who They are, and What They Do (Ft. The Atheist Rationalle) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG13mzYzBZo

Steve Anderson sermon transcripts http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/page9.html

Anderson https://www.youtube.com/user/sanderson1611 is the pastor at Faithful Word Baptist Church http://www.faithfulwordbaptist.org/ in Tempe, AZ.

 

Crooks and Liars https://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/gospel-hate-arizona-pastor-steve-and and MSNBC [?], https://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/reportage-youll-never-see-fox-msnbcs




the best critiques of christians are other christians – they can be brutal. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gcao2TYVoxo

Simply put, McMurty is notorious for ''othering” https://youtu.be/QG13mzYzBZo?t=535

McMurty for all it's worth mirrors Anderson's rhetoric. Right down to killing LGBTQI+

Today, A Youtube Channel named “Let God Burn Them Quickly!” uploaded a video where Tommy McMurtry is recorded as saying he hoped for protesters and violence at the MASA conference giving them the opportunity to kill people while hiding behind the “Stand Your Ground” law in Florida.
Pray that if they do any protests that it gets violent … they have Stand Your Ground in Florida”
He continues to say that since they can fight back he wants people to become violent so that he can legally “protect” himself against people he perceives to be “an easy win.” The NIFB is known for brandishing weapons and stalking their critics.(Note both the channel and video in question have been removed from YT for hate speech.) http://nifbcult.com/tommy-mcmurtry-prays-for-violence/

Bruce Mejia of Faithful Word Baptist Church in Los Angeles CA. http://fwbcla.org/

we believe they should be put to death. They should die! And I will never grieve over a sodomite that is killed or that is put to death or any other way that they die, I will never grieve for that. In fact, I will rejoice over that.
Make a clip out of that and put that in the news.
The “reprobate doctrine” which is that sodomites cannot be saved. https://newifb.info/index.php/2018/09/16/bruce-mejia-preaches-that-sodomites-cannot-be-saved/

I should note that I relied on other KJV Only ministries that also counter Anderson's twisted reprobate doctrine.

Refuting the Unbiblical Reprobate Doctrine
(Be forewarned this guy actually does “reluctantly” support Anderson, just not his version of the reprobate doctrine https://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Truths/why_promote_pastor_steven_anderson.htm

The False “Reprobate” Doctrine
http://www.newcovenantbaptist.org/the-false-reprobate-doctrine/ (There is a video associated that's actually kinda interesting)

The influence of Jack Hyles,,,
The Reprobate Doctrine crowd rally behind a sermon clip by Dr. Jack Hyles, which Pastor Steven Anderson has titled, “Jack Hyles Explains Reprobate Doctrine.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtAzR-OGTT8&feature=youtu.be In the sermon clip Hyles simply teaches that there is a line which an unsaved person can cross, beyond which they cannot be saved.

Adam Fannin at this point, although it really doesn't quite fit. Fannin is important for two reasons. 1] He also heavily preached the Reprobate Doctrine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRe8wu9hlB4 among other vile things; 2] he now calls NIFBC a cult. (Pastor Steven Anderson's THE NEW IFB MAFIA is a Cannibalistic Cult - Adam Fannin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDDEeeKoxgE)

According to NewIFB.info http://newifb.info/index.php/2019/06/15/adam-fannins-exit-from-the-new-ifb/

The accusation of cult is surprising as it appears he still endorses the same flawed teachings. https://newifb.info/index.php/2019/06/15/warning-law-of-liberty-baptist-church-in-jacksonville-fl-teaches-false-new-ifb-teaching/

Which brings us to the fallout from the booting Donnie Romero over bad behavior https://www.star-telegram.com/living/religion/article223928990.html

At one point, Romero was a disciple of Anderson's. Commissioned and sent out from Anderson’s Faithful Word Baptist Church to plant a church in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. http://stevenandersonfamily.blogspot.com/2014/08/church-growth.html (Anderson's wife Zsuzsanna' blog) BUT recently he had a massive fall from grace. https://brucegerencser.net/2019/01/ifb-preacher-donnie-romero-caught-cavorting-with-prostitutes-smoking-weed-and-gambling/

His claim to fame is a 2014 sermon where he preached the message that all gays should “be put to death.” http://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/texas-pastor-dirty-faggots-want-to-snatch-and-rape-your-kids/
"I'm going to explain to you why God wants these people to be put to death. … The word of God is very clear that God is against the sodomites, that they're filthy and it says they're an abomination to God. … I love that part of the Bible, and I'm going to preach that part of the Bible until the day I die, and if I ever stop preaching that part of the Bible, I hope my kids tell me, 'Dad, you're going soft on sin, you need to get up there and rip on these queers, because it's only getting worse and worse.' 
"And amen to what Pastor Anderson said — I'm not going to let any of these dirty faggots inside of my church. They are all pedophiles. … They're always trying to rape and hurt other people. They're relentless. They are relentless. They are predators and given an opportunity to snatch one of your children, they would do it in a heartbeat." http://www.towleroad.com/2014/12/arizona-pastors-texas-disciple-says-gays-are-filthy-faggots-who-want-to-snatch-and-rape-children/

Jonathan Shelley heads the Stedfast Baptist Church http://stedfastbaptistkjv.org/ in Fort Worth TX 76114. Besides the debacle above concerning Romero, Shelley is known as the man who wants to stone unruly kids among https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIns-wVlrw4

… [Kids are] going to continue being more rebellious, more mocking, more arrogant, more prideful. You see, it’s never enough. They just want to keep mocking their parents and disobeying their parents. You’ve got to squash out the rebellion in your child.
You know you could squash rebellion in a public school today? Take the rebellious one out and stone him. I bet they’d shapen up pretty quick. I bet they’d figure out, “Maybe I should hearken under the authorities in my life.” And we see, unfortunately, our society is continually destroying itself, because [all of these] rebellious, arrogant, prideful teenage jerks that just don’t want to hearken to their parents, you know, and God said they should be put to death.

The guy that’s the lazy gamer, “I don’t want to get a job. I just want to play video games all day and drink alcohol with my buddies,” that guy should be put to death.

You know what? As a young man, you should be able to work! And you should work hard! And you should be sober! And the man that’s not going to do that, God says, “Well, I think you’re worthy of death.” That’s pretty serious.

Now obviously, in this society we live in today, this would never happen, right? America, this isn’t happening. You can’t take your child up to the government and say, “Look, this guy won’t listen to us, hearken to us.”

But here’s the thing. When man fails to execute God’s judgment, do you think God’s just gonna let that go? God will repay. When man fails to put someone to death, God will take care of it. And if you’re a stubborn and rebellious child, you better be careful every single step you take… https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/01/22/baptist-preacher-rebellious-kids-in-public-schools-should-be-stoned-to-death/


Shelley preached against the LGBTQ community in an October 2018 sermon.

They hate God. God has already given them up,” he says in the video. “That’s the reason they’re doing these vile, disgusting things. They’re beasts, they’re wicked, they’re abominable, they’re filthy today.”

David Berzins appeared to be a rising star within the movement. Originally planting a church (Word of Truth Baptist Church http://wordoftruthbaptist.org/) in Prescott Valley, Arizona. According to NewIFB.info from 2018, https://newifb.info/index.php/2018/07/10/david-berzins-abandons-unsuccessful-new-ifb-church-plant-and-tries-again/ Anderson is listed or was listed as the pastor (web site is not UTD nor does it seem active). Berzins now leads a church http://strongholdbaptist.church/ in Norcross, GA.; Strong Hold Baptist Church. http://newifb.info/index.php/2018/07/06/warning-strong-hold-baptist-church-in-norcross-ga-preaches-false-new-ifb-teaching/


At this point in time I have no information confirming or denying an ongoing relationship with the NIFBC or Anderson. The closest confirmation is this piece coming out of WSB-TV2 in Atlanta, https://www.wsbtv.com/news/2-investigates/metro-atlanta-church-may-soon-be-listed-on-national-list-of-hate-groups/911741190


Berzins moved to Atlanta last summer. He comes from Arizona, where he was ordained at the Word of Truth Baptist Church. If that church sounds familiar, it’s because the pastor there made national news in 2009 when he said he prayed for President Barack Obama’s death. The reason: Obama is pro-choice.

Both pastors call themselves New Independent Fundamental Baptists. The group’s website lists 21 churches in the United States. Berzins says they are not a denomination, but a group of like-minded churches. 


But Berzins' whopper besides the mimickery of Anderson was his defense of Anderson when a fellow pastor requested that his website be removed from Anderson‘s church directory.


As Hemant noted over at Friendly Atheist. “Berzins went on a rant about how that guy did the whole Christian world a disservice with his request. Because, really, what’s the big deal about stoning homosexuals?” https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2015/04/15/christian-pastor-condemns-colleague-for-not-wanting-gay-people-put-to-death/
I like the guy [who wanted to be removed from the directory]. He’s a Christian, he’s saved, he does soul-winning, he believes in a King James Bible, it’s a Baptist church. Independent Fundamental Baptist church.
He believes homosexuality is wickedness, and he preaches against it.
But just because they don’t believe that [homosexuals] should be stoned, which — I think it’s very clear… Look, God came up with the laws of the Old Testament! They’re breathed by the Lord. And if you think that you know better on how to run a country than God has ordained, you think your laws are better…
When you choose to be disassociated and break fellowship with a fellow Christian or a fellow church over something like that, you are just giving the enemy that much more ground and you’re letting them win… Now look, if you think they shouldn’t be put to death, fine. If you don’t think that should be the government’s role, but you believe the Bible and you’re against homosexuality, this is not a cause to break fellowship over… Don’t break fellowship with someone who simply believes that Leviticus 20:13 should be in application in our government today.
Now, you’re gonna break fellowship over fellow Christians over this issue because you’re too scared! Because you’re scared about retaliation from these perverts! Don’t be scared! They’ve vile and wicked and you need to be standing up and standing together…
Next we have Aaron Thompson, of Verity Baptist Church in Vancouver, Washington. https://veritybaptistvancouver.com/index.html And yes he is clone of all the rest. VBC is a satellite ministry of Verity Baptist Church in Sacramento, CA under the leadership of Pastor Roger Jimenez (up next).

His claim to fame and why he is on my radar, he preaches biblical reason not to get vaxxed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7QwV1kajc8 Yes these cretins are anti-vaxx among other things. (More on that later.)

I may do a comparison to Kent Hovind, https://interestinghmm.blogspot.com/2016/04/show-notesjust-no.html (3-parts)

Roger Jimenez, also of Verity Baptist Church https://veritybaptist.com/ but in Sacramento, CA . Like all the rest he is a clone of Anderson, which is bizarre as he has family (by marriage) who is a member of the LGBTQI+ community. https://fox40.com/2016/06/18/family-of-varity-baptist-church-pastor-ashamed-of-his-anti-lgbt-comments/

His assholery by now is or should be well known. Within days of the Pulse shooting, he stated in a sermon https://heavy.com/news/2016/06/pastor-roger-jimenez-praises-orlando-massacre-youtube-video-mass-shooting-gay-isis-omar-mateen/

Are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed today?” asked Jimenez. “Um no. I think that’s great. I think that helps society. I think Orlando, Florida, is a little safer tonight. The tragedy is that more of them didn’t die. The tragedy is I’m kind of upset he didn’t finish the job – because these people are predators. They are abusers.

He doubled down on that statement during his speech during MASA.
https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/06/15/here-are-the-lowlights-from-day-1-of-the-anti-lgbtq-christian-hate-conference/ and as Heavy notes,

Jimenez defended his sermon to ABC 10, https://www.abc10.com/article/news/local/sacramento/sacramento-baptist-pastor-praises-orlando-massacre/243211965 and said he had no regrets. “My whole point was, if people die who deserved to die, we don’t need to be mourning them. This gunman that went in there and shot those people up, the Bible says he deserves to die, and we shouldn’t be mourning his death either.”

Patrick Boyle of Revival Baptist Church in Orlando; the host church https://www.revivalbaptistorlando.com/ I don't have much on this guy other than he insists he’s just echoing the Bible when he says gay people “are worthy of death.”

His church’s PayPal account was taken down after atheist activists reported it. https://twitter.com/ge_kaitlyn/status/1137424608620163072

Grayson Fritts of All Scripture Baptist Church https://allscripturebaptist.com/ Knoxville, TN .
https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/local/2019/06/13/knox-county-detective-calls-lgbtq-executions-what-we-know/1440547001/ My personal information is a bit sketchy and outdated as I, literally while scripting, discovered he is NIFBC and allegedly has preached at Anderson's church.

Andrew Seidel's blurp from the FFRF, “FFRF Director of Strategic Andrew Seidel discusses how FFRF is calling on the Knox County Sheriff's Department to probe Deputy Grayson Fritts’ wrathful demand for the government to execute LGBTQ citizens. Fritts called for state violence against LGBTQ citizens he called “sodomites” and “queers,” even likening them to “animals.”

No information or very little,,,

Rocky Randall Iola Baptist Temple https://www.iolabaptisttemple.com/ Iola, KS

Manly Perry Old Path Baptist Church http://www.oldpathtxb.church/ Adkins, TX


Joe Major of Faith Baptist Church in LA gave a guest sermon at the Philippines church of Logan Robertson. In a sermon titled “Make The World Straight Again,” Major told the raucous crowd about how all homosexuals were inherently pedophiles and that’s why they deserved to be executed. https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/06/18/christian-hate-preacher-gay-people-are-selfish-pedophiles-who-must-be-killed/



I want to share some of their comments here only because people need to know what sort of bigotry is being justified in the name of Christ. You can’t push back against it unless you know what they’re saying.” https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/06/15/here-are-the-lowlights-from-day-1-of-the-anti-lgbtq-christian-hate-conference/

Some others in the movement that are prevalent on YouTube

Ben the Baptist https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpSSfgoF2AVKB8q4Qoq-aDw

Matt Powell https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUFgmArK_ljP52HJLBmMoQg

If you remember, Matt Powell is the pencil-neck, 22ish y/o nuckfutz
that has said things like atheists were Coke-drinking video game addicts and scientists were hiding the truth about the Sun and moon. As Hemant notes, he sat for an interview with Skylar Fiction, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MWJ_BgzaWY when shit really hit the fan when he said to Skylar that the government should execute gay people. https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/07/04/youtube-punishes-atheist-for-exposing-christian-who-wants-gay-people-executed/


as far as homosexuality goes, you know, I believe the Bible puts the death penalty on it. I believe it’s disgusting. And incidentally, every scientific test has come back and said that homosexuals are 50 more times likely to get AIDS… we got this AIDS thing spreading… it’s a fact that this is the case.


Skylars interview was taken down by YT and a debacle commenced. So of course I had to get Skylar and we did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgDdeIJncmk&t=48s (Episode 159 interview with Skylar Fiction)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uZQaTqezgo (Suris does a wonderful take down of Powell)

Standing For Truth

Framing The World (Paul Wittenburger)

Jonathan Kragen

If I had a button on the pulpit that I could push and every homosexual would fall over dead, I would push it till I break my finger.”

During the build-up to the MASA rally, Mike Winger https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7u2HaYBKDaLPcWmldxgGEA of Bible Thinker https://biblethinker.org/index.php/about-mike, posted the following video Steven Anderson vs The Biblical Gospel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUkn0Fl86sE

Enter Prophet of ZOD who has a good take as well concerning Winger's reaction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3aPHS_6Gro (highly recommend!!)

Tangentially related I Asked a Pastor the Same Question that Made his Daughter an Atheist! (Matt Slick vs David Smalley) https://holykoolaid.com/is-god-a-moral-monster/

As Anderson is fond of saying, if you dont agree, leave.


I would add,

4] Part of their unofficial doctrine Conspiracy Theories https://www.thenewifb.com/documentaries
  • 9/11 Conspiracies
  • Anti-Vaccination
  • Chemtrails
  • Water Fluoridation

What they believe (the same or similar can be found at each associated church website http://nifbcult.com/nifb-churches/, this from Verity in CA)

Founded and controlled by Anderson, the ‘New” IFB church movement believes that the “old” IFB church movement has moved away from its core beliefs and practices. While this is true is some instances, there is very little difference between the churches of these groups. Both groups are cultic; both are Evangelical in doctrine; both are conservative politically; both practice personal separation (from the world) and many of the churches practice secondary separation (refusing to fellowship with churches/pastors who have connections with compromising churches/pastors/colleges); both are evangelistic; both believe the Bible is inerrant (and many use only the King James Bible); both believe they alone are True Christians®. One thing is for certain, Steven Anderson is the de facto pope of the “New” IFB church movement.” https://brucegerencser.net/2019/01/steven-andersons-new-ifb-movement-erupts-into-a-food-fight-over-donnie-romero/


Here's what the NIFBC states, https://www.thenewifb.com/what-is-the-new-ifb


The New Independent Fundamental Baptist Movement is a title used to identify churches and believers from around the world who take the word of God seriously. The movement is a revival of what the old IFB once represented. The movement is a new generation going back to the old paths. Each church that is associated with the movement is independent and each Pastor submits himself to the word of God and the Lord Jesus Christ. The movement is not a denomination. Each Pastor may see things somewhat differently than the other Pastors, resulting in differing beliefs on various minor issues. However, all of the churches in the movement are united on the following important doctrines: *FAITH ALONE FOR SALVATION *ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED *KING JAMES BIBLE ONLY *TRINITY *SOUL-WINNING *HARD PREACHING *ANTI-WORLDLINESS *ANTI-CALVINISM *ANTI-DISPENSATIONAL *ANTI-ZIONISM *POST-TRIB PRE-WRATH RAPTURE

Is NIFBC a cult?
As I use a different model, I have relied on Telltale's,
Steven Anderson - Is He A Cult Leader? (2019) (BITE Model Breakdown) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCpohuR74RA. Simply put, https://freedomofmind.com/bite-model/

Generate and use propaganda extensively - https://www.thenewifb.com/documentaries as well as YT personalities like Matt Powell
Shun you if you disobey or disbelieve – they do shun and they will kick you out; public shaming https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckUS9DkZ0c0

Content Creators



Note:: the Kragen Clan are ex-NIFBC








I do have one special thank you, and that is to Suris https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCh-YXgnF0tmBxCsh4w_4svw for allowing me to use the clip in its entirety. It is 4 minutes, but so very worthy of play.

https://twitter.com/Surisskeptic

Please watch till the end,,,
We Deserve to Live (A Response to the NIFB)

Thursday, June 13, 2019

Preachers are having a ‘Make America Straight Again’ event in Orlando & they’re praying for violence / LGBTQ Nation

A group of anti-LGBTQ preachers will be hosting a “Make America Straight Again” conference this weekend in Florida, three years after the Pulse nightclub shooting.

The preachers, associated with the New Independent Fundamentalist Baptist Church, put together the conference in Orlando as a way to dishonor those who died in the gay nightclub shooting that left 49 people dead on June 12, 2016.

According to a promotional video put together by pastor Patrick Boyle of the Revival Baptist Church in Orlando, the three-day conference will be “exposing the reprobates.”

He said that the speakers invited to the conference are known for “making a vocal stand against the Sodomites and their filth that they’ve been spreading to the homes of families across the world and the United States of America.”

Preachers are having a ‘Make America Straight Again’ event in Orlando & they’re praying for violence / LGBTQ Nation

Thursday, May 23, 2019

Pastor Steven Anderson is the first person banned from Ireland

Steven L. Anderson — who grabbed headlines when he prayed for the death of former President Barack Obama in 2009 and in 2016 when he praised the gunman who killed 49 people at Florida’s Pulse nightclub — was set to visit Dublin May 26 to preach to an unspecified congregation, the Irish Times reported.

Numerous LGBT rights groups had called for Anderson to be barred from entering the country, with over 14,000 people signing a Change.org petition to that effect.

 In response, Irish Minister for Justice Charlie Flanagan signed an order under the nation’s 1999 Immigration Act banning the pastor. It’s the first exclusion order signed since the law was enacted.


Pastor Steven Anderson is the first person banned from Ireland

Friday, January 11, 2019

IFB Preacher Donnie Romero Caught Cavorting With Prostitutes, Smoking Weed, and Gambling | The Life and Times of Bruce Gerencser

Gerencser sums it up well,
Donnie Romero is the pastor of Stedfast Baptist Church, Fort Worth, Texas. Romero is the bosom buddy of Steven Anderson, pastor of Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, Arizona. Yesterday, Anderson released a video detailing Romero’s resignation from Stedfast Baptist. According to Pope Anderson, Romero was cavorting with prostitutes, smoking weed, and gambling.  What’s next? Romero secretly used the NIV to study for his sermons? The good news is that according to Anderson’s and Romero’s soteriology, the fallen pastor is still saved. There’s nothing Romero can do to ever lose his salvation. Once saved, always saved, baby, even if Romero brings shame to his family or infects his wife with a STD.

Anderson must be livid over Romero exposing that his little club of IFB churches is just like the rest of the bunch; that for all their talk about soulwinning, homosexuality, and any human behavior they deem sinful, these “men of God” are no different from the unwashed, uncircumcised Philistines of the world.
IFB Preacher Donnie Romero Caught Cavorting With Prostitutes, Smoking Weed, and Gambling | The Life and Times of Bruce Gerencser

Things are getting rather twisted, Steven Anderson Embroiled in Fight Over Stedfast Baptist Church Jacksonville:
It seems that there is a great deal of infighting right now in Donnie Romero’s church spin off, Stedfast Church in Jacksonville, Florida. Steven Anderson, head of their hate-cult ‘The New IFB”, is fighting with Adam Fannin, the pastor of Stedfast Baptist of Jacksonville.

Romero was the head pastor of the church, and that of Stedfast in Texas. There’s a ‘Pastor Shelley’ involved in the mess. It smells like a nasty church split from here. Turns out that Pastor Shelley is anti-vaxxer and anti-medicine and will be taking over Stedfast Baptist in Fort Worth very shortly.

Fannin is claiming that there is a great deal about Romero that has not be exposed. Would not be surprised at all. Fannin is claiming that the decisions being made by Anderson that are ‘creating jerks in the movement.’ In other words they are starting to fight over who exactly is in charge. Plus there are all sorts of accusations over money. Fannin is saying that Steven Anderson has his hands in the church cookie jar, has been taking and using their money for God himself only knows what. That’s all I know

Monday, May 7, 2018

I'm sorry you feel SOCAS is not important (1)


Generally not something I would expand upon but this "head in the sand" attitude needs to cease as it has been going on for way too long. Due to space considerations I could not elaborate as much as I would have liked concerning some points I made. So here we go, and this is gonna be long, very long!

As I noted, religionists have a troubled relationship with race and segregation.
In May 1969, a group of African-American parents in Holmes County, Mississippi, sued the Treasury Department to prevent three new whites-only K-12 private academies from securing full tax-exempt status, arguing that their discriminatory policies prevented them from being considered “charitable” institutions,,,
In  Green v. Kennedy [https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp/309/1127/2096127/] (David Kennedy was secretary of the treasury at the time), decided in January 1970, the plaintiffs won a preliminary injunction, which denied the “segregation academies” tax-exempt status until further review. In the meantime, the government was solidifying its position on such schools. Later that year, President Richard Nixon ordered the Internal Revenue Service to enact a new policy denying tax exemptions to all segregated schools in the United States. Under the provisions of Title VI of the Civil Rights Act, which forbade racial segregation and discrimination, discriminatory schools were not—by definition—“charitable” educational organizations, and therefore they had no claims to tax-exempt status; similarly, donations to such organizations would no longer qualify as tax-deductible contributions.
What Balmer argues, Paul Weyrich used this opportunity to organize the Religious Right as the IRS began sending questionnaires to church-related “segregation academies.” One such institution which become the battleground is Bob Jones University. While the initial legal battle began in 1971, it wasn't until 1983that SCOTUS upheld the right of the IRS to rescind the tax-exempt status of the University in Bob Jones University v. United States 461 U.S. 574 (1983).


From Amanda Marcotte,
Balmer doesn't mention it, but there was one other shift in the public consciousness going on at the time. The "Stop ERA" campaign, headed up by Christian right leader Phyllis Schlafly to kill the Equal Rights Amendment banning sex discrimination, got moving in 1972. By the time male Christian conservative leaders like Weyrich and Falwell decided to make abortion a centerpiece issue, Schlafly had done the yeoman's work of convincing huge numbers of evangelical Christians that feminists were a threat to the very fabric of society. With hostility to women's equality rising, making the anti-abortion pitch was probably much, much easier.
In regards to the Bible being used as a sledge-hammer (justifying slavery and anti-LGBTQI+ discrimination), two books come to mind: Saving The Original Sinner: How Christians Have Used the Bible’s First Man to Oppress, Inspire and Make Sense of the World, by Karl. W. Giberson (2015) AND The Bible Tells Me So: Why Defending Scripture Has Made Us Unable to Read It by Peter Enns (2015). Both books explore the intellectual games used by conservative Christians to “protect” the Bible and justify their actions or in-actions.

It is in chapter 9 that Giberson explores racism and slavery. Contrary to AiG some of the most ardent racists were so-called Christians who used the Bible to support such. (I contrast with Ham and AiG as I am more familiar with their stance than any other creationist/religionist organization.) Just for shits-n-giggle, this is AiG's review of Giberson's book (abstract).
According to Dr. Karl Giberson, the molecules-to-man evolution that supposedly spawned us also made us the morally messed up creatures that we are. In Saving the Original Sinner he attacks belief in the historicity of Adam. He teaches that we are “original sinners” not as Adam’s descendants but as a result of our evolutionary heritage. Believing sin and death did not enter human history through Adam but are the natural results of evolution, he considers Adam irrelevant. Gone with Adam is the biblical foundation for understanding why the “last Adam” Jesus Christ came to die for the sins of the first Adam’s descendants. Bible-believing creationists who believe Adam and Eve were the first parents of all people refuse to accept Darwinian evolution’s explanation of human origins. Therefore, belief in Adam is a stronghold that evolutionist Karl Giberson assaults with this book, hoping to precipitate a crisis of faith in biblical creationists.
While I would have to review my copy of Giberson book to be sure, but this goes to Ham's fear of losing authority, something I have written about before - specifically The Evolution Connection.  Why he pushes so hard for creationism to be taught in schools.

As for my take away from Enns' book, while he was a bit more fluffy for my overall liking, he makes an interesting point that I believe highlights the mind-set of the Religious Right, "God never told the Israelites to kill the Canaanites. The Israelites believed that God told them to kill the Canaanites."

Again for shits-n-giggles, AiG's critique.
What we know of Jesus Christ’s love and grace comes to us through the reliable testimony of God’s Word. That simple and beautiful biblical truth, summed up in the familiar phrase “The Bible tells me so” from the hymn “Jesus Loves Me,” introduces many children to the love of Jesus. This sweet refrain also reminds adults that God’s revelation to us in His Word is the foundation for faith and the ultimate source of truth. A new book capitalizing on the familiar song—The Bible Tells Me So: Why Defending Scripture Has Made Us Unable to Read It by Dr. Peter Enns—is a collection of compromises, written for the layman. The book wastes a great deal of ink claiming that the Bible is simply not to be trusted or taken seriously. In it Dr. Enns continues his destructive influence on the Christian faith and biblical understanding through his relentless assault on God’s Word.
We are all well aware of the "clobber passages" used to justify hatred and discrimination, re-hashing them now would be a bit redundant (and make this post even longer).  What I want to focus on are some of the preachers of hate both members of clergy and pols-n-pundits.  As I said many years ago, this type of rhetoric is no longer fringe.
Sorry to say, if you do not speak out against the extremism you condone it, it is no longer fringe when it is occurs in our everyday life. To borrow a phrase from a wise friend, I leave you with this: "The religions of "love" teaching hate!!"
Scott Lively in his own words,,,
"There is no question that homosexuality figures prominently in the history of the Holocaust. … The first years of terrorism against the Jews were carried out by the homosexuals of the SA."
– The Pink Swastika, 1996

"Homosexuality is thus biologically (and to varying degrees morally) equivalent to pedophilia, sado-masochism, bestiality and many other forms of deviant behavior."
– “Deciphering 'Gay' Word-Speak and Language of Confusion," May 2002

Lively is currently running for Governor of Massachusetts, is responsible, in part,  for the "kill the gays" bill in Uganda. With author Kevin Abrams, wrote The Pink Swastika (1995); which is thoroughly debunked. Believes his advocacy helped inspire the Russian law passed in 2013 that bans “propaganda for non-traditional sexual relations among minors.”

Next comes a man who is of the opinion all gays are pedophiles and will have sex with anything, believing all homosexuals should kill themselves. (See:: America's Hate Preachers a BBC documentary, highlighted below, and this little gem.)
ANDERSON: To normal people, homosexuality [and] pedophilia are disgusting. To a normal person.
LIVINGSTON: Why do you put pedophilia and homosexuality in the same group?
ANDERSON: They are in the same group! Because any man who would have sex with another man would have sex with anything. Period. Like, I’ll put it this way: Any man who would have sex with another man would have sex with an animal.
LIVINGSTON: That’s blatantly not true, though!
ANDERSON: It is true! That’s reality. Even if you don’t think it’s reality…
LIVINGSTON: What do you think homosexuals should do, then?
ANDERSON: Kill themselves, as far as I’m concerned, because they’re horrible, wicked people. They’re just gonna keep molesting and destroying people. So I don’t have any advice for homosexuals, except to put a bullet in your own head so that you don’t molest my kids or anyone else’s kids.
Steven Anderson has been banned in Jamaica (2018), Botswana (deported - 2016), South Africa (2016), the UK (2016) and Canada.  He is known for, not only the above, but also calling on the government to execute homosexuals as well as declaring there are  “50 less pedophiles in this world” after the Pulse nightclub shooting. (Theodore Shoebat is another anti-LGBTQI+ crusader who has also advocated for executing homosexuals. Along with his father Walid "more than a few holes in his backstory" Shoebat, they are a potent hate duo.)

[Besides advocating for the death of LGBT people, Steven Anderson also made an antisemitic film and promoted Holocaust denial (“Marching to Zion.” released in March 2015 - mirror site), saying the Jews lied about the Holocaust in order to create the state of Israel, and that slave laborers at Auschwitz were compensated for their work and could buy items at a commissary.  This is a horrid little film and if you have a strong stomach, it is worth the watch.]

Next on my list is Gordon Klingenschmitt (sadly a hometown boy as he was born in Buffalo and hence my interest), this man should be a nobody but for his one claim to fame. In 2006 he was court-martialed and subsequently ousted from the Navy and sued in the Court of Federal Claims, claiming that he was wrongfully discharged from the Navy and seeking reinstatement, and arguing that his First Amendment rights were violated. (Readers Digest version.)

Now Gordon has had a fairly long career by hate-mongers standards.  While not as vitriolic as Anderson, he is anti-LGBTQI+; he's a bizarre little man. Although he has a thing for "demonic spirits". What makes Klingenschmitt so dangerous, he has served as a state legislator (CO) and is considering another run in 2018.

As Luning notes,
A lightning rod for controversy who put actual lightning rods to shame during his one term in the General Assembly, Klingenschmitt maintained President Barack Obama is possessed by demons and once performed an exorcism on him. He accused U.S. Rep. Jared Polis, who is gay, of wanting to “join ISIS in beheading Christians,” although Klingenschmitt later said the remark wasn’t meant seriously. He was admonished by House GOP leadership for calling it “the curse of God upon America for our sin of not protecting innocent children in the womb” when a pregnant Longmont woman was attacked and her baby was cut from her womb.
Not only is he considering another run for office, he does have the ear of some notable if not infamous politicians. As I have sated before, Klingenschmitt is guilty of biblical hyperliteralism; it is a false way of biblical interpretation which leads to his many bigoted statements.

While Gordon is in some cases mild, not so with our next homophobe,  Kevin Swanson.  He like Anderson and Shoebat advocate for the execution of homosexuals.  What's worse is he has political clout as demonstrated by the 2015 National Religious Liberties Conference. An event he organized featuring, then, three Republican contenders for the presidency:  Mike Huckabee, Bobby Jindal, and  Ted Cruz.

As Katherine Stewart notes for the NYT,
The comfortable thing to do would be to dismiss Mr. Swanson as just another wombat from the embarrassing fringe of American politics. But that would be a mistake. Mr. Swanson’s murderous imaginings did not interfere with his ability to attract senior Republican figures to his conference, including as a keynote speaker Bob Vander Plaats, an Iowa politician who will grant the “Most Wanted Endorsement of 2016,” according to the Conservative Review.

Mr. Swanson is the product of a significant political movement that has coalesced around the theme of religious liberty. Many of its leaders and their allies appear at the Family Research Council’s annual Values Voters Summit. Other power centers include Liberty University (now a required stop on the campaign trail); conservative policy organizations like the American Family Association and Concerned Women for America; and Christian legal advocacy groups like Liberty Counsel (whose co-founder, Mat Staver, acted as Kim Davis’s lawyer) and the Alliance Defending Freedom, the legal powerhouse behind the Hobby Lobby decision (whose president, Alan Sears, co-wrote a book in 2003 titled The Homosexual Agenda: Exposing the Principal Threat to Religious Freedom Today”).

When talking about religious conservatives in America, we might perhaps conjure up an image of a farmer in Iowa or a small-business owner in Ohio who goes to church and holds traditional values. But the leaders to whom such conservatives deliver their votes have a distinct, often different, political vision.
Speaking of Ted Cruz (and by proxy his father Rafael) let's take a look-see first at elder Cruz and his dominionist ideology, "that fundamentalist Christians should take over, well, just about everything".
It’s not hard to figure out Rafael Cruz’s basic message. He has given scores, probably hundreds, of sermons and talks at religious and political gatherings, and many are on YouTube. His primary theme is that the United States is a “Christian nation” and that only true believers who adhere to biblical principles—that is, who accept the literal truth of the Bible, as Rafael Cruz and other fundamentalists see it—are worthy of guiding the United States forward. He regularly rails against pastors and church leaders who eschew politics and do not enter the political fray to combat the enemy: secular humanism.

Rafael Cruz is an advocate of Christian dominionism, which essentially holds that fundamentalist Christians should take over, well, just about everything. Speaking at a Texas church in 2012, Rafael Cruz told the crowd that God instructed Adam and Eve to go forth, multiply, and, as he put it, “take dominion over all my creation.” He said this meant that true-believers ought to dominate all areas of life: “That dominion is not just in the church, that dominion is over every area—society, education, government, and economics.” (During that sermon, he also noted that husbands, not wives, should be the “spiritual leader” of their families.) In Cruz’s view, those who accept Christ and his word (as Cruz believes it should be understood) will prosper spiritually and financially. In that same sermon, he noted that God not only anoints priests to lead the faithful, but also anoints “kings…to take dominion.” By that, he means those who rule a nation, and, he adds, these rulers one day (and he makes it sound as if this day will come soon) will transfer the wealth of the “wicked” to the “righteous.”
So, how far do you think the apple falls from the tree? Rafael Cruz is not only Ted Cruz's father, he is also his closest personal and professional mentor who actively campaigned for his son among evangelical voters in regards to the 2016 Presidential election cycle. While Junior's speeches are not laden with hate like his father's, he does accept his father endorsement and council.

It's difficult to succinctly pin a direct statement like Swanson's "kill the gays" on Cruz; but he sure does attract a, shall we say, questionable crowd. For example, Mike Bickle (IHOP) has notably claimed God sent Adolf Hitler to hunt down Jews who refuse to convert to Christianity; James Dobson of Focus on the Family, who has suggested taking up arms against transgendered individuals; Phil Robertson of Duck Dynasty who in 2013 had the infamous GQ interview where he stated
"Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men," he says. Then he paraphrases Corinthians: "Don't be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers—they won't inherit the kingdom of God. Don't deceive yourself. It's not right."
Bob Vander Plaats of Family Leader,  who led a successful 2010 effort to oust three state Supreme Court justices who ruled in favor of marriage equality.

Pamela Gellar, the anti-Muslim activist who claim to fame is her 2010 campaign in opposition to the Park 51 Islamic Center project in Manhattan, which she deemed the “Ground Zero Mosque”. Not only is she associated with National Security Advisor John Bolton, but Richard Spencer and Milo Yiannopoulos as well.  She is an active columnist at Breibart and WND (note:: direct link be careful!) 

Now just to demonstrate how wacked these associations are, consider this,,, Theodore Shoebat has, in the past, called for Pamela Geller to be put to death for associating with “faggots” and “sodomites” at the “Gays for Trump” event during the RNC convention noted above. I shit you not!!

The list of influences on Cruz is endless in regards to what I consider far-right crazies (for complete list.) But,,, it highlights very well that no matter how small the crazies influence, it has ramifications  for a wider audience.  In some case individuals that are responsible for making our laws. It is why I personally bitch so much in regards to SOCAS.

These are but a few individuals, some I have had personal run-ins with but most interactions have been on the inter-web.  I am going to leave with one last person, someone whom falls into the former category mentioned; Michael Brown.

(Some individuals I have mentioned for a specific reason.   Currently Ted Cruz is up for re-election in Texas against Beto O'Rourke.  While he is not well liked by his colleagues, Cruz does wield much power - w/ Mike Lee of UT - and like Mike Pence, his notion of theocratic control concerning the "Seven Mountains Mandate" is scary, the individuals listed endorse his brand of dominionism, it even scarier.)

Like Scott Lively, Brown has no problem exporting his hate nor like Klingenschmitt claiming homosexual demonic forces or some such shit. Brown is also a big purveyor of the "Christian persecution" narrative (I am a fan of JMG and use him as reference in many a posting, including this one.)  But what makes Brown dangerous, (besides his association with Lou Engle, founder of the International House of Prayer (IHOP) and leader of TheCall; a man who believes the LGBT fight for equality is a bigger threat than Islamic terrorists), he employs verbal and religious violence as a tool of thought and instruction. "[V]erbal, spiritual and theological violence will be to silence and strip all LGBT people of their legal, civil and social equality, freedom and liberty, effectively creating a theocracy governed by the principles they believe are set forward in both Old Testament and New Testament law."


IOWs, while Brown may not advocate for physical violence, his "imagery and allegory, are a threat to LGBT people, even if he and his organization are not,,, there is a thin line between violent thoughts and words, and violent actions and deeds. I believe it is this precariously thin line Brown seems to disregard,,," (From  “Jesus Manifesto,” via Interstateq.)
“Revolution means upheaval. Revolution means the overthrowing of the status quo. We dare not downplay the significance of the word. Revolution is a matter of life and death, and our revolution flows from the blood of the Savior to the blood of the martyr. We put down our sword and take up our cross, overcoming Satan by the blood of the Lamb, by the word of our testimony, and by not loving our lives so much as to shrink from death (Rev. 12:11).”
Our revolution is fueled by the power of the gospel, and the gospel does violence to the forces of hell. We must recover the fullness of the gospel of Jesus! It is nothing less than a direct assault on the kingdom of Satan, a frontal attack on hostile, spiritual powers, a mortal confrontation of light against darkness. It brings about the ultimate counterculture conflict.”
"We’re in a war, and war means conflict, hardship, and sacrifice. As Leonard Ravenhill wrote, ‘When a nation calls its prime men to battle, homes are broken, weeping sweethearts say their good-byes, businesses are closed, college careers are wrecked, factories are refitted for wartime production, rationing and discomforts are accepted — all for war. Can we do less for the greatest fight that this world has ever known outside of the cross — this end-time siege on sanity, morality, and spirituality?'”
"Our society is deteriorating all around us and even non-believers sense that something is wrong. Why? It is because we, the people of God, the army of the Lord Jesus, the messengers of liberation, the ambassadors of reconciliation, have been sidetracked by the love of this world and distracted by the cares of this age.”
Matt sums up the issue well in the comments, responding to Brown,  "my utmost concern is your verbally and theologically violent rhetoric and language. People have a right to be aware of what you are teaching and how it is being taught. People have a right to be aware of the possible threat — not from you or your group — but from others who hear your words and are unable to distinguish between your “spiritual concepts” and allegory, and real calls for physical violence."


So I will end there (I leave out Westboro as they are no longer the only player in the game), but to say I am "reeeeeaally reaching with those examples. Especially if you're trying to use them as examples in the present day," is utter bull-fucking-shit. You and your head-in-the-sand ilk need to start paying attention.  Hell even my 16y/o co-worker is more aware of the religious batshittery going on without doing a deep dive into all the religious rhetoric.